Is there a short-hand way to distinguish the experience of direct, immediate perception and the experience that is awareness of what you’ve perceived? I don’t suppose the former involves any simulating, and that is where things ground out.
the experience is a simulation of something else, but it’s also a thing in itself.
Could you expand on this? I’m not sure what you mean from a couple possibilities.
We perceive our simulation in some way, possibly reusing the same machinery we use to perceive the external world. ‘Consciousness’ being recursive, and all..
You think you’re seeing the color red. It’s how your brain passes you wavelengths in your environment, or it’s a memory about such an experience, or it’s a generalization about red.
You feel happy. This is how your brain (I’m not sure how or if the complex nervous system in your gut is involved) passes you an emotional state.
The thing I’m trying to get at is, are these experiences of redness or happiness simulations of something else, or is a person experiencing them as primary a thing as the red object.
This idea may not be ideally clear at my end. What are the possibilities you’re seeing?
You will have to clarify what you mean by ‘a person experiencing them’. This sounds like a little homunculus and I assume that you don’t mean that. It leads to an infinite series of watchers watching watchers.
Is there a short-hand way to distinguish the experience of direct, immediate perception and the experience that is awareness of what you’ve perceived? I don’t suppose the former involves any simulating, and that is where things ground out.
Could you expand on this? I’m not sure what you mean from a couple possibilities.
We perceive our simulation in some way, possibly reusing the same machinery we use to perceive the external world. ‘Consciousness’ being recursive, and all..
You think you’re seeing the color red. It’s how your brain passes you wavelengths in your environment, or it’s a memory about such an experience, or it’s a generalization about red.
You feel happy. This is how your brain (I’m not sure how or if the complex nervous system in your gut is involved) passes you an emotional state.
The thing I’m trying to get at is, are these experiences of redness or happiness simulations of something else, or is a person experiencing them as primary a thing as the red object.
This idea may not be ideally clear at my end. What are the possibilities you’re seeing?
You will have to clarify what you mean by ‘a person experiencing them’. This sounds like a little homunculus and I assume that you don’t mean that. It leads to an infinite series of watchers watching watchers.