I agree to some extent, but I think it would’ve been much better if you’d posted this on the original post, not on the reply.
I agree that it would have been better, but disagree about it mattering much. The comment isn’t something that is specific to the post. Rather, it is about the particular type of post.
FWIW, the reason I posted it here is simply because it was the first of the two posts I saw, and my impression at the time was that Ben’s post was only on the EA Forum, not on LW. From there, it didn’t feel worth re-arranging the comments.
It might be better-suited as a top-level meta post of the form “People spend too much time on community drama” or something
Yeah, maybe. I’m not sure.
If you did make it a full post, you could also do a Fermi estimate of the advantages and disadvantages of engaging in community drama; I’m particularly interested in your estimate, not of participating in the drama, but of posting the drama in the first place.
I feel moderately confident that it is a net harm. From behind a veil of ignorance, I wouldn’t want it posted.
My model is that it sucks people in, wastes their time, and increases the general degree of hostility without really accomplishing much.
The main thing I see it accomplishing is reinforcing the precedent of accountability; that if you do something bad, the community will hold you accountable and penalize you. However, my sense is that the community already does a pretty good job of this, a good enough job such that there isn’t really a need to tug harder on the accountability string.
The main thing I see it accomplishing is reinforcing the precedent of accountability; that if you do something bad, the community will hold you accountable and penalize you. However, my sense is that the community already does a pretty good job of this, a good enough job such that there isn’t really a need to tug harder on the accountability string.
Yeah, we’re so great at that that we caught FTX in advance, right?
No, seriously, given stuff like FTX, what exactly gives you the impression that we’re good enough at accountability? Even if we consider FTX to be a one-off outlier, outliers with outsized impact deserve outsized consideration nonetheless.
I agree that it would have been better, but disagree about it mattering much. The comment isn’t something that is specific to the post. Rather, it is about the particular type of post.
FWIW, the reason I posted it here is simply because it was the first of the two posts I saw, and my impression at the time was that Ben’s post was only on the EA Forum, not on LW. From there, it didn’t feel worth re-arranging the comments.
Yeah, maybe. I’m not sure.
I feel moderately confident that it is a net harm. From behind a veil of ignorance, I wouldn’t want it posted.
My model is that it sucks people in, wastes their time, and increases the general degree of hostility without really accomplishing much.
The main thing I see it accomplishing is reinforcing the precedent of accountability; that if you do something bad, the community will hold you accountable and penalize you. However, my sense is that the community already does a pretty good job of this, a good enough job such that there isn’t really a need to tug harder on the accountability string.
Yeah, we’re so great at that that we caught FTX in advance, right?
No, seriously, given stuff like FTX, what exactly gives you the impression that we’re good enough at accountability? Even if we consider FTX to be a one-off outlier, outliers with outsized impact deserve outsized consideration nonetheless.