I agree with this. In my comment above, by “impose social costs” I was primarily thinking of “make a move to lower the person’s power and/or status within the EA and/or AI safety scenes” via things like “not work with them” or “not give them grants” or whatever the intermediary resource-equivalents you have in your area. I’m not quite sure what you thought I might be including, but I didn’t mean things like “downvote their posts because you think they’re otherwise unethical people” which in almost all cases would be pretty over the line to me.
I sometimes write LW comments with an intention to let someone know that I’ve lost a lot of respect for them over their views (and whatever knock on professional or interpersonal effects that may have between us), but I don’t think that’s what you’re pushing back against.
You are free to decide who you want to work or interact with. I have no objections for people arguing here for policies on grants or collaborations banning lab employees, even if I personally oppose such policies.
I agree with this. In my comment above, by “impose social costs” I was primarily thinking of “make a move to lower the person’s power and/or status within the EA and/or AI safety scenes” via things like “not work with them” or “not give them grants” or whatever the intermediary resource-equivalents you have in your area. I’m not quite sure what you thought I might be including, but I didn’t mean things like “downvote their posts because you think they’re otherwise unethical people” which in almost all cases would be pretty over the line to me.
I sometimes write LW comments with an intention to let someone know that I’ve lost a lot of respect for them over their views (and whatever knock on professional or interpersonal effects that may have between us), but I don’t think that’s what you’re pushing back against.
You are free to decide who you want to work or interact with. I have no objections for people arguing here for policies on grants or collaborations banning lab employees, even if I personally oppose such policies.