They would have had a different reaction in chapter 48 when Harry became a vegetarian after learning about parselmouth.
It would have been hinted in a way or another in the Prentending to be Wise arc, or otherwise in all the debate between Harry and other wizards about if soul exists.
In chapter 47 Draco wouldn’t have be saying so seriously that muggles don’t have souls.
That’s not very strong evidence, I admit. But taken those 3 pieces of evidence, combined with the lack of any evidence pointing in the wide belief that animals have souls, it seems reasonable to assume the common belief among wizards is that animals don’t have souls.
So it seems Quirrel and Moody are contradicting each other on how the Killing Curse actually works.
They would have had a different reaction in chapter 48 when Harry became a vegetarian after learning about parselmouth.
I believe that animals have brains, different from human brains mostly only in intelligence. and am not a vegetarian. Wizards probably think of muggles as having souls, and have been known in cannon to hunt them for sport. Slave masters definitely though of their slaves as having souls.
It would have been hinted in a way or another in the Prentending to be Wise arc, or otherwise in all the debate between Harry and other wizards about if soul exists.
Why do you think this?
In chapter 47 Draco wouldn’t have be saying so seriously that muggles don’t have souls.
Touche. Draco is still an 11 year old put on the spot, so this is weak evidence.
I believe that animals have brains, different from human brains mostly only in intelligence. and am not a vegetarian.
Sure, but you can understand vegetarian, and a fair deal of humans are vegetarian. There isn’t the slightest evidence of any wizard being vegetarian. If wizards actually believed animals had souls, not just brain, there would be more, not less, vegetarian wizards than vegetarian muggles.
Wizards probably think of muggles as having souls, and have been known in cannon to hunt them for sport.
Only a few wizards hunt muggle for the fun, the blood purist who actually believe that muggle don’t have souls.
Slave masters definitely though of their slaves as having souls.
That’s not really obvious. The Valladolid controversy is a clear example of the issue being actually disputed. And then again, the Hermiones opposed slavery. The Hermiones in HPMOR aren’t vegetarian.
What if they believed everything had (some kind of) a soul, including (but not necessarily limited) to plants? The reactions would be interpreted differently. After all, magic beliefs and animistic beliefs were often associated in our history, and wizards actually have things like that crazy violent willow and the sorting hat. They also have examples of magical creatures, including for example centaurs who both have human-like sentience and are magic users (or at least capable of prophecy).
Perhaps Draco has just misspoken, or spoken without thinking. After all, racist beliefs are traditionally not very internall consistent. Maybe the actual claim is only wizard souls go to heaven, or something like that.
Demisouls? Alternatively, AK is only seeking and wall-penetrating against sapients but still instant death against animals (and therefore still useful since animals might be immune to stunning spells and durable enough to withstand physics spells.)
If wizards believed animals had souls :
They would have had a different reaction in chapter 48 when Harry became a vegetarian after learning about parselmouth.
It would have been hinted in a way or another in the Prentending to be Wise arc, or otherwise in all the debate between Harry and other wizards about if soul exists.
In chapter 47 Draco wouldn’t have be saying so seriously that muggles don’t have souls.
That’s not very strong evidence, I admit. But taken those 3 pieces of evidence, combined with the lack of any evidence pointing in the wide belief that animals have souls, it seems reasonable to assume the common belief among wizards is that animals don’t have souls.
So it seems Quirrel and Moody are contradicting each other on how the Killing Curse actually works.
More likely still is that people really don’t think on the matter much and so don’t have well formed or necessarily consistent views of souls.
The animal and vegetative souls can die, and lack various functional properties. There’s a reason some of us would prefer to abandon the word.
I believe that animals have brains, different from human brains mostly only in intelligence. and am not a vegetarian. Wizards probably think of muggles as having souls, and have been known in cannon to hunt them for sport. Slave masters definitely though of their slaves as having souls.
Why do you think this?
Touche. Draco is still an 11 year old put on the spot, so this is weak evidence.
Sure, but you can understand vegetarian, and a fair deal of humans are vegetarian. There isn’t the slightest evidence of any wizard being vegetarian. If wizards actually believed animals had souls, not just brain, there would be more, not less, vegetarian wizards than vegetarian muggles.
Only a few wizards hunt muggle for the fun, the blood purist who actually believe that muggle don’t have souls.
That’s not really obvious. The Valladolid controversy is a clear example of the issue being actually disputed. And then again, the Hermiones opposed slavery. The Hermiones in HPMOR aren’t vegetarian.
Hmm.. looks like the evidence I cited wasn’t as strong as I thought.
What I mostly mean to suggest is that having a soul does not necessarily make a thing morally significant.
What if they believed everything had (some kind of) a soul, including (but not necessarily limited) to plants? The reactions would be interpreted differently. After all, magic beliefs and animistic beliefs were often associated in our history, and wizards actually have things like that crazy violent willow and the sorting hat. They also have examples of magical creatures, including for example centaurs who both have human-like sentience and are magic users (or at least capable of prophecy).
Perhaps Draco has just misspoken, or spoken without thinking. After all, racist beliefs are traditionally not very internall consistent. Maybe the actual claim is only wizard souls go to heaven, or something like that.
Demisouls? Alternatively, AK is only seeking and wall-penetrating against sapients but still instant death against animals (and therefore still useful since animals might be immune to stunning spells and durable enough to withstand physics spells.)