A) Two conversation starter topics this week will be. (see links on page 2)
1) How to Convince Me That 2 + 2 = 3 by Eliezer Yudkowsky
2) Truth-by-repetition: No matter how outrageous, repeated lies become the truth by Tim Brinkhof
B) We will also have the card game Predictably Irrational. Feel free to bring your favorite games or distractions. This is a pet-friendly park and meeting.
C) We usually walk and talk for about an hour after the meeting starts. There are two easy-access mini-malls nearby with hot takeout food available. Search for Gelson’s or Pavilions in the zipcode 92660.
D) Share a surprise! Tell the group about something that happened that was unexpected or changed how you look at the universe.
E) Make a prediction and give a probability and end condition.
F) Contribute ideas to the group’s future direction: topics, types of meetings, activities, etc.
Conversation Starter Readings: These readings are optional, but if you do them, think about what you find interesting, surprising, useful, questionable, vexing, or exciting.
Pick something that you are sure or nearly sure of and describe what would convince you you were wrong, It can be 2+2=4, the correctness of your last vote, the existence of God, the rightness of your favorite economic system, or the love of your dog. Share your thoughts about something you think is obviously and conclusively proven to be true or false but that many people don’t accept despite the evidence.
Do these results surprise you? Do you believe them? Would you interpret them differently? What role do you think social belonging, social conflict, and social status competition play in the acceptance or rejection of big lies? What big Lies do you think are pervading our world?
OC LW meetup sat 12/17 2+2=3 and Big lies
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1V7gV4w3riK93uT55djNzhGG6MDjqchIWdwHaXRPavh0/edit?usp=sharing
Due to the Cold weather, we are meeting at my house nearby! Email me for the address. Changes in usual meeting information are struck through.
Hello folks!
I am glad to announce the 13th of a continuing series of Orange County ACX/LW meetups. Meeting this Saturday and most Saturdays.
Contact me, Michael, at michaelmichalchik@gmail.com with questions or requests.
Saturday, 12/17/22, 2 pm
1900 Port Carlow Place, Newport Beach, 92660The Picnic tables outside the community clubhouse33.6173166789459, −117.85885652037152https://goo.gl/maps/WmzxQhBM2vdpJvz39
Plus code 8554J48R+WFJActivities (all activities are optional)
A) Two conversation starter topics this week will be. (see links on page 2)
1) How to Convince Me That 2 + 2 = 3 by Eliezer Yudkowsky
2) Truth-by-repetition: No matter how outrageous, repeated lies become the truth by Tim Brinkhof
B) We will also have the card game Predictably Irrational. Feel free to bring your favorite games or distractions.
This is a pet-friendly park and meeting.C) We usually walk and talk for about an hour after the meeting starts. There are two easy-access mini-malls nearby with hot takeout food available. Search for Gelson’s or Pavilions in the zipcode 92660.
D) Share a surprise! Tell the group about something that happened that was unexpected or changed how you look at the universe.
E) Make a prediction and give a probability and end condition.
F) Contribute ideas to the group’s future direction: topics, types of meetings, activities, etc.
Conversation Starter Readings:
These readings are optional, but if you do them, think about what you find interesting, surprising, useful, questionable, vexing, or exciting.
1) How to Convince Me That 2 + 2 = 3 - LessWrong includes audiolink.
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/6FmqiAgS8h4EJm86s/how-to-convince-me-that-2-2-3
Pick something that you are sure or nearly sure of and describe what would convince you you were wrong, It can be 2+2=4, the correctness of your last vote, the existence of God, the rightness of your favorite economic system, or the love of your dog. Share your thoughts about something you think is obviously and conclusively proven to be true or false but that many people don’t accept despite the evidence.
2) Truth-by-repetition: No matter how outrageous, repeated lies become the truth includes audio
https://bigthink.com/neuropsych/repetition-lie-truth-propaganda/#Echobox=1670858076
Do these results surprise you? Do you believe them? Would you interpret them differently? What role do you think social belonging, social conflict, and social status competition play in the acceptance or rejection of big lies? What big Lies do you think are pervading our world?