I particularly disagree with “don’t feed the trolls”
And indeed, a very interesting discussion grew out of this otherwise rather unfortunate post.
I’m quite well acquainted with irc, mailing lists, wikis, wide variety of chans, somethingawful, slashdot, reddit, hn, twitter, and more such forums I just haven’t used in a while.
There are upsides and downsides of all communication formats and karma/moderation systems, but as far as I can tell HN karma system seems to strictly dominate reddit karma system.
If you feel adventurous and don’t mind trolls, I highly recommend giving chans a try (something sane, not /b/ on 4chan) - anonymity (on chans where it’s widely practised, in many namefagging is rampant) makes people drastically reduce effort they normally put into signalling and status games.
What you can see there is human thought far less filtered than usual, and there are very few other opportunities to observe that anywhere. When you come back from such environment to normal life, you will be able to see a lot more clearly how much monkey tribe politics is present in everyday human communication.
(For some strange reasons online pseudonyms don’t work like full anonymity.)
When you come back from such environment to normal life, you will be able to see a lot more clearly how much monkey tribe politics is present in everyday human communication.
I find that working with animals is good for this, too. Though it’s rarely politic to say so.
What you can see there is human thought far less filtered than usual, and there are very few other opportunities to observe that anywhere. When you come back from such environment to normal life, you will be able to see a lot more clearly how much monkey tribe politics is present in everyday human communication.
This is the sort of thing that I was referring to here. Very educational experience.
And indeed, a very interesting discussion grew out of this otherwise rather unfortunate post.
I’m quite well acquainted with irc, mailing lists, wikis, wide variety of chans, somethingawful, slashdot, reddit, hn, twitter, and more such forums I just haven’t used in a while.
There are upsides and downsides of all communication formats and karma/moderation systems, but as far as I can tell HN karma system seems to strictly dominate reddit karma system.
If you feel adventurous and don’t mind trolls, I highly recommend giving chans a try (something sane, not /b/ on 4chan) - anonymity (on chans where it’s widely practised, in many namefagging is rampant) makes people drastically reduce effort they normally put into signalling and status games.
What you can see there is human thought far less filtered than usual, and there are very few other opportunities to observe that anywhere. When you come back from such environment to normal life, you will be able to see a lot more clearly how much monkey tribe politics is present in everyday human communication.
(For some strange reasons online pseudonyms don’t work like full anonymity.)
I find that working with animals is good for this, too. Though it’s rarely politic to say so.
This is the sort of thing that I was referring to here. Very educational experience.