Could someone, please, confirm or disprove my impression that this idea might be not falsifiable at all? And if it is not, could someone, please, explain to me what reasons to apply this idea are still there (I am skeptical and curious, not completely denying)?
However, I appreciate this attempt to offer such an interesting moral idea/hypothesis/theory like this.
I would certainly update in the direction of “this is wrong” if I heard a bunch of people had tried to apply this style of thinking over an extended period, I got to audit it a bit by chatting to them and it seemed like they were doing a fair job, and the outcome was they made just as many/serious mistakes as before (or worse!).
(That’s not super practically testable, but it’s something. In fact I’ll probably end up updating some from smaller anecdata than that.)
Wow, thanks for your willingness to test/falsify your statements, and I apologize for my rash judgment. Your idea just sounded to me to be too good to be true, so I wanted to be cautious.
And I would be glad to say I am completely satisfied with your answer. However, that is not the case yet, maybe just because the “mistakes” of the people trying to apply wholesomeness might still need a definition—a criterion according to which something is or is not a mistake.
However, if you provided such a definition, I might be another tester of this style of thinking.
The most straightforward criterion would probably be “things they themselves feel to be mistakes a year or two later”. That risks people just failing to own their mistakes so would only work with people I felt enough trust in to be honest with themselves. Alternatively you could have an impartial judge. (I’d rather defer to “someone reasonable making judgements” than try to define exactly what a mistake is, because the latter would cover a lot of ground and I don’t think I’d do a good job of it; also my claims don’t feel super sensitive to how mistakes are defined.)
Could someone, please, confirm or disprove my impression that this idea might be not falsifiable at all? And if it is not, could someone, please, explain to me what reasons to apply this idea are still there (I am skeptical and curious, not completely denying)?
However, I appreciate this attempt to offer such an interesting moral idea/hypothesis/theory like this.
I would certainly update in the direction of “this is wrong” if I heard a bunch of people had tried to apply this style of thinking over an extended period, I got to audit it a bit by chatting to them and it seemed like they were doing a fair job, and the outcome was they made just as many/serious mistakes as before (or worse!).
(That’s not super practically testable, but it’s something. In fact I’ll probably end up updating some from smaller anecdata than that.)
Wow, thanks for your willingness to test/falsify your statements, and I apologize for my rash judgment. Your idea just sounded to me to be too good to be true, so I wanted to be cautious.
And I would be glad to say I am completely satisfied with your answer. However, that is not the case yet, maybe just because the “mistakes” of the people trying to apply wholesomeness might still need a definition—a criterion according to which something is or is not a mistake.
However, if you provided such a definition, I might be another tester of this style of thinking.
The most straightforward criterion would probably be “things they themselves feel to be mistakes a year or two later”. That risks people just failing to own their mistakes so would only work with people I felt enough trust in to be honest with themselves. Alternatively you could have an impartial judge. (I’d rather defer to “someone reasonable making judgements” than try to define exactly what a mistake is, because the latter would cover a lot of ground and I don’t think I’d do a good job of it; also my claims don’t feel super sensitive to how mistakes are defined.)