I believe my point has been missed: Are you claiming that men don’t enjoy “positive subjective experiences”? If yes, what studies and evidence. If no, why are you calling out women specifically as enjoying this, instead of just saying “people enjoy X in a mate”?
I’m not saying you’re wrong about women liking these things. I’m not saying men and women are the same. I’m saying in this particular case, it seems like you’ve found a human universal, not a female universal, and thus it would make more sense to say “Aha! People like confidence in a mate!” Your first study addresses confidence, but not gender disparity. The other two suggest gender disparity, but not in any of the specific traits your post cited.
Aha! It’s not that women prefer jerks to nice guys, but they prefer confident, ambitious men to pushovers.
This doesn’t suggest a gender disparity, merely that I now understood something about how the ‘women love jerks’ meme had been started, and what was actually going on.
But, as it turns out, there is a gender disparity here. Women place a higher premium on status and ambition than men do (see the studies cited in my comment above). Women also place a higher premium than men do on confidence. See here.
Next, I said:
Aha! Body language and fashion matter because they communicate large packets of information about me at light speed, and are harder to fake than words.
This suggests no gender disparity. It merely says that body language and fashion are powerful signaling tools, which they are.
Aha! Women are attracted to men with whom they have positive subjective experiences. That’s why they like funny guys, for example!
You’re right, this does imply a gender disparity that isn’t clearly supported by any studies I know about. Correction accepted. Oops. Perhaps a better example would have been the importance of touching during relationship initiation—for both men and women.
I believe my point has been missed: Are you claiming that men don’t enjoy “positive subjective experiences”? If yes, what studies and evidence. If no, why are you calling out women specifically as enjoying this, instead of just saying “people enjoy X in a mate”?
I’m not saying you’re wrong about women liking these things. I’m not saying men and women are the same. I’m saying in this particular case, it seems like you’ve found a human universal, not a female universal, and thus it would make more sense to say “Aha! People like confidence in a mate!” Your first study addresses confidence, but not gender disparity. The other two suggest gender disparity, but not in any of the specific traits your post cited.
In my post I said:
This doesn’t suggest a gender disparity, merely that I now understood something about how the ‘women love jerks’ meme had been started, and what was actually going on.
But, as it turns out, there is a gender disparity here. Women place a higher premium on status and ambition than men do (see the studies cited in my comment above). Women also place a higher premium than men do on confidence. See here.
Next, I said:
This suggests no gender disparity. It merely says that body language and fashion are powerful signaling tools, which they are.
You’re right, this does imply a gender disparity that isn’t clearly supported by any studies I know about. Correction accepted. Oops. Perhaps a better example would have been the importance of touching during relationship initiation—for both men and women.