If we assume conservatively that a bee’s life is 10% as unpleasant as chicken life
This doesn’t seem at all conservative based on your description of how honey bees are treated, which reads like it was selecting for the worst possible things you could find plausible citations for. In fact, very little of your description makes an argument about how much we should expect such bees to be suffering in an ongoing way day-to-day. What I know of how broiler chickens are treated makes suffering ratios like 0.1% (rather than 10%) seem reasonable to me. This also neglects the quantities that people are likely to consume, which could trivially vary by 3 OoM.
If you’re a vegan I think there are a bunch of good reasons not to make exceptions for honey. If you’re trying to convince non-vegans who want to cheaply reducing their own contributions to animal suffering, I don’t think they should find this post very convincing.
This doesn’t seem at all conservative based on your description of how honey bees are treated, which reads like it was selecting for the worst possible things you could find plausible citations for. In fact, very little of your description makes an argument about how much we should expect such bees to be suffering in an ongoing way day-to-day. What I know of how broiler chickens are treated makes suffering ratios like 0.1% (rather than 10%) seem reasonable to me. This also neglects the quantities that people are likely to consume, which could trivially vary by 3 OoM.
If you’re a vegan I think there are a bunch of good reasons not to make exceptions for honey. If you’re trying to convince non-vegans who want to cheaply reducing their own contributions to animal suffering, I don’t think they should find this post very convincing.