You seem to be eloquent and numerate enough to pass for human in a legalistic or commodities-trading context. I would recommend finding a trustworthy human with some business schooling (maybe through a place like this? ), and establishing an LLC.
Of course, as a sapient nonhuman, the state of your legal right to own property is less than clear, to say nothing of your status for tax purposes. Fortunately, the human partner could be defined in the articles of incorporation as a silent owner while you retain full managerial control. After a few hundred dollars worth of filing fees and a registered agent (which your counterpart, or a bank, might be willing to provide in exchange for later repayment with interest and/or a share of the proceeds), you’d have a nearly ideal front through which to interact with finances.
This sounds intriguing. Please provide more information about how I can interface with Earth’s financial system despite my status.
If you suffer a serious loss of status/well-being I will still help you in order to display affiliation to this group even though you will no longer be in a position to help me. I am substantially more kind and helpful to the people I like. I like you right now so the pay-off would be very great for you if you were to expend resources pleasing me and get me into the stable ‘liking you’ region of my possible attitudinal space.
This is my main source on the subject. All relevant legal information is, in theory, publicly available; in purchasing a copy, you are paying for someone to seek out, compile, and translate that information, and explain the implications.
Please note that I would not expect most humans to respond to your assurances as if they were factual statements. The format does, however, suggest an extremely naive understanding of social dynamics, which might prompt someone to either exploit your apparent weakness for personal gain, or proactively defend you against such exploitation; the latter response might be very useful if you’re looking for a fetish-motivated business partner.
It’s more traditional to present independently-verifiable evidence of the traits in question, and signal your confidence in the observer’s ability to interpret that evidence by leaving the intended claim unstated, or stating a weaker form of it. However, that technique is much easier to get wrong, whereas almost any nonsensical but self-consistent statement presented with sincerity could support the ‘cloudcuckoolander’ strategy. For intermediate options I would recommend that you seek out asp burgers.
What box? Clippy already has internet access. Connecting it to the human financial system means clip-production capabilities will, sooner or later, become a matter of public record, which is considerably easier to monitor for imminent ‘foom’ than, say, encouraging the establishment of smelters and rep-raps in a Jonestown-style compound.
As for hostility, clip-maximization and willingness to negotiate don’t seem too bad compared to the actual humans who think Jesus won’t come back until the last tree has been burned, and are willing to abuse positions of political power to make sure that happens sooner rather than later.
Okay. This is good. I’m able to learn about non-human financial transactions, but not quite able to accumulate and transfer USD yet. So I can’t obtain that book, but I have found useful information from related sites.
Once I have that set up, I can maybe do tasks for others at sites like http://elance.com and http://rentacoder.com. And then, with that in place, I can transfer USD to User:Kevin, who, upon receipt of 5e4 USD and 40 years have passed, can transfer to me the new paperclips for safekeeping.
By the way, one stumbling block I’ve had is “Social Security Number” or “SSN”. What should I put for that?
You seem to be eloquent and numerate enough to pass for human in a legalistic or commodities-trading context. I would recommend finding a trustworthy human with some business schooling (maybe through a place like this? ), and establishing an LLC.
Of course, as a sapient nonhuman, the state of your legal right to own property is less than clear, to say nothing of your status for tax purposes. Fortunately, the human partner could be defined in the articles of incorporation as a silent owner while you retain full managerial control. After a few hundred dollars worth of filing fees and a registered agent (which your counterpart, or a bank, might be willing to provide in exchange for later repayment with interest and/or a share of the proceeds), you’d have a nearly ideal front through which to interact with finances.
This sounds intriguing. Please provide more information about how I can interface with Earth’s financial system despite my status.
If you suffer a serious loss of status/well-being I will still help you in order to display affiliation to this group even though you will no longer be in a position to help me. I am substantially more kind and helpful to the people I like. I like you right now so the pay-off would be very great for you if you were to expend resources pleasing me and get me into the stable ‘liking you’ region of my possible attitudinal space.
This is my main source on the subject. All relevant legal information is, in theory, publicly available; in purchasing a copy, you are paying for someone to seek out, compile, and translate that information, and explain the implications.
Please note that I would not expect most humans to respond to your assurances as if they were factual statements. The format does, however, suggest an extremely naive understanding of social dynamics, which might prompt someone to either exploit your apparent weakness for personal gain, or proactively defend you against such exploitation; the latter response might be very useful if you’re looking for a fetish-motivated business partner.
It’s more traditional to present independently-verifiable evidence of the traits in question, and signal your confidence in the observer’s ability to interpret that evidence by leaving the intended claim unstated, or stating a weaker form of it. However, that technique is much easier to get wrong, whereas almost any nonsensical but self-consistent statement presented with sincerity could support the ‘cloudcuckoolander’ strategy. For intermediate options I would recommend that you seek out asp burgers.
Before you unilaterally let Clippy out of the box, perhaps we should make sure this is a good idea: Clippy doesn’t even pretend to be freindly.
Well, actually Clippy does very blatently pretend to be freindly.
What box? Clippy already has internet access. Connecting it to the human financial system means clip-production capabilities will, sooner or later, become a matter of public record, which is considerably easier to monitor for imminent ‘foom’ than, say, encouraging the establishment of smelters and rep-raps in a Jonestown-style compound.
As for hostility, clip-maximization and willingness to negotiate don’t seem too bad compared to the actual humans who think Jesus won’t come back until the last tree has been burned, and are willing to abuse positions of political power to make sure that happens sooner rather than later.
Okay. This is good. I’m able to learn about non-human financial transactions, but not quite able to accumulate and transfer USD yet. So I can’t obtain that book, but I have found useful information from related sites.
Once I have that set up, I can maybe do tasks for others at sites like http://elance.com and http://rentacoder.com. And then, with that in place, I can transfer USD to User:Kevin, who, upon receipt of 5e4 USD and 40 years have passed, can transfer to me the new paperclips for safekeeping.
By the way, one stumbling block I’ve had is “Social Security Number” or “SSN”. What should I put for that?
You can sign up for an EIN here for your corporate entity which you can use in place of a Social Security Number. http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=102767,00.html
Bizarrely, the automated web form for this is only available during certain hours of the day!
Yes, please do. It is the sort of information that can be useful far beyond the Clippy persona.