… but I meant in the case that somehow the relative position of the organs could affect the way they are wired, yeah, probably not conceivable in real life.
Okay, if this case does exist, doesn’t that guarantee cognition wouldn’t exclusively be in the brain?
Mmm, maybe(?, do you have an actual example of this phenomenon or something? It seems weird to me that you ask this. How would this work?
Even if they are wired differently, cognition might still be solely in the brain and the way the brain models the body will still be based on the way those nerves connect to the brain.
Yeah but you didn’t tell me how different the way those organs are wired is compare to the typical way. Even if the relative position is different, I would need specific examples to understand why the mapping of the brain of those organs wouldn’t work here.
I still don’t get why from your perspective: “It seems weird to me that you ask this.”. if a very plausible reason for asking is right there a few comments prior.
Is there something you don’t understand in the previous comment(s)?
I still don’t get why from your perspective: “It seems weird to me that you ask this.”
It is true that at that time I’d lost some of the content, but I know that, I even mentioned situs inversus as an example.
But I still would need an actual example of what kind of computations you think would need to be performed in this weirdly-placed organs that are not possible based on the common idea that the brain maps the positions of the organs.
I think you need to reread my comment because I never claimed computations ‘would need to be performed in this weirdly-placed organs’.
If it’s true that some aspect(s) of cognition are stored in the body, I think it’s exceedingly likely there would be thousands of subtle variations, such as an organ’s 3D placement, that would subtly affect cognition.
If it’s true that some aspect(s) of cognition are stored in the body
it’s exceedingly likely there would be thousands of subtle variations
one example of such would be an organ’s 3D placement
These variations then would therefore subtly affect cognition, assuming point 1 holds.
For point 1, it’s not certain either way whether there’s any cognitive aspects such as storage, processing, learning, etc., happening in the body.
But if it’s true… then point 2, then point 3, then point 4.
I can’t spell it out any more clearly then this, so if there’s still some confusion I would suggest we part ways with the conversation.
Okay, if this case does exist, doesn’t that guarantee cognition wouldn’t exclusively be in the brain?
Mmm, maybe(?, do you have an actual example of this phenomenon or something? It seems weird to me that you ask this. How would this work?
Even if they are wired differently, cognition might still be solely in the brain and the way the brain models the body will still be based on the way those nerves connect to the brain.
Huh?
To confirm, do you understand that I replied to your comment 4 days ago, up the chain, with the example?
If you are confusing me with someone else, then I suggest rereading the comment.
Yeah but you didn’t tell me how different the way those organs are wired is compare to the typical way. Even if the relative position is different, I would need specific examples to understand why the mapping of the brain of those organs wouldn’t work here.
I still don’t get why from your perspective: “It seems weird to me that you ask this.”. if a very plausible reason for asking is right there a few comments prior.
Is there something you don’t understand in the previous comment(s)?
To me, the reason seems literally spelled out.
It is true that at that time I’d lost some of the content, but I know that, I even mentioned situs inversus as an example.
But I still would need an actual example of what kind of computations you think would need to be performed in this weirdly-placed organs that are not possible based on the common idea that the brain maps the positions of the organs.
I think you need to reread my comment because I never claimed computations ‘would need to be performed in this weirdly-placed organs’.
If it’s true that some aspect(s) of cognition are stored in the body
it’s exceedingly likely there would be thousands of subtle variations
one example of such would be an organ’s 3D placement
These variations then would therefore subtly affect cognition, assuming point 1 holds.
For point 1, it’s not certain either way whether there’s any cognitive aspects such as storage, processing, learning, etc., happening in the body.
But if it’s true… then point 2, then point 3, then point 4.
I can’t spell it out any more clearly then this, so if there’s still some confusion I would suggest we part ways with the conversation.
I think this is sound. I thought you were making stronger claims about cognitive processes that might be embodied.
Do you know any interesting literature on the topic?