“Transgender individuals are prohibited from entering military service by medical regulations. To join the military, potential service members are required to undergo a physical examination as part of the entry process. During this examination, the military may reject the potential service member if he or she has had any type of genital surgery. ”
And, yes, I’d meant foot traffic. I find major bus/train stops, and parks, both work well for this purpose.
I’ve read the same hygiene article, bu I’m not sure what would be weird and NOT technically a tenuous connection given that you’ve managed to make “topless” in to a hygiene issue. Off-hand, though… walking on all fours but wearing gloves AND having a friend with you who handles all interacting-with-objects? Possibly leashed, to help clarify that you’re just a pet. Although that might get taken as BDSM or beastiality, which are both obviously “dirty” :)
Fur suiting… connects to furry… sexual… therefor dirty.
Wearing a price sign on one’s head… clearly rude since it’s violating their property/ownership boundaries. Ditto muttering to yourself, singing weird songs, dancing, staring at people… even OCD can come across as rude (compulsive handwashing = you think I’m dirty just for touching you, harumph!)
I can’t think of anything that can’t technically be reduced to either “dirty” or “rude”! But I think such a reduction doesn’t really invalidate my point, especially given how much you have to stretch it when you realize that men can often get away with being topless where women cannot.
given that you’ve managed to make “topless” in to a hygiene issue
Sweat is often present! Therefore, OBVIOUSLY, germs are. Obviously. And That’s Terrible. (I feel the need to mention that I say this as an
outsider—I merely have a very strong impression that Americans tend to be rather overwrought on the subject of hygiene.)
As for the sexism angle, I think men are expected to be careless about some part of their appearance. But more realistically, we’re culturally encouraged to view exposure of breasts as a sexual signal, but not pecs. So breasts are automatically ‘dirtier’.
Possibly leashed, to help clarify that you’re just a pet. Although that might get taken as BDSM or beastiality,
Whereas it’s roleplay? (I confess that before you made that distinction, it didn’t occur to me that petplay was different enough from BDSM to be considered as a separate thing.)
Anyway it’s unclear to me what sort of scenario has actually played out for you. How much of this is based on your experiences, and how much on extrapolation?
Wearing a price sign on one’s head… clearly rude since it’s violating their property/ownership boundaries.
I had real trouble parsing that. You mean that it violates expectations of ‘what can be owned’ and ‘who can own what’?
That sounds like ‘their problem’ rather than ‘rude’, but maybe those are often the same thing.
I think your original point is perfectly valid. I was trying to figure out if there was anything other than unthinking gut disgust underlying these responses.
Anyway it’s unclear to me what sort of scenario has actually played out for you. How much of this is based on your experiences, and how much on extrapolation?
I’ve gone to a video store on all fours, and I’ve gone out leashed, but not at the same time. I’ve been openly affectionate to multiple people (all of us the same gender). I’ve done all sorts of gender bending. The price sign is also a personal example—I went to an electronics store, they had a triangular price sign that worked perfectly as a hat, and it was clear the employee that asked me to stop was seriously alarmed by the situation. I go barefoot routinely during the summer, and occasionally in the winter (0C / 32F hurts to walk in, but I’ll sometimes do it to the coffee shop 2 blocks from me just for fun :))
I don’t consider going around on all fours, leashed, to automatically be BDSM. BDSM suggests I’m getting something sexual out of it, that it’s a relationship activity rather than improv theatre, a sociology experiment, or just good fun weirding out the the normals with friends :) (In case it’s not clear from me kissing other girls in public, I’m fine being weird for it’s own sake AND weird ’cause girls are hot :))
Wearing a price sign on one’s head… clearly rude
I was taking an object which belonged to someone else, and using it in a way that they didn’t like, even though it was technically harmful. Sort of like if I borrowed your pencil without asking, or even introducing myself. My experience is people react to it as “rude”, rather than “theft”, since it’s obvious I don’t plan to keep the object, and I’m not harming it. I’m just touching something without permission.
“Transgender individuals are prohibited from entering military service by medical regulations. To join the military, potential service members are required to undergo a physical examination as part of the entry process. During this examination, the military may reject the potential service member if he or she has had any type of genital surgery. ”
And, yes, I’d meant foot traffic. I find major bus/train stops, and parks, both work well for this purpose.
I’ve read the same hygiene article, bu I’m not sure what would be weird and NOT technically a tenuous connection given that you’ve managed to make “topless” in to a hygiene issue. Off-hand, though… walking on all fours but wearing gloves AND having a friend with you who handles all interacting-with-objects? Possibly leashed, to help clarify that you’re just a pet. Although that might get taken as BDSM or beastiality, which are both obviously “dirty” :)
Fur suiting… connects to furry… sexual… therefor dirty.
Wearing a price sign on one’s head… clearly rude since it’s violating their property/ownership boundaries. Ditto muttering to yourself, singing weird songs, dancing, staring at people… even OCD can come across as rude (compulsive handwashing = you think I’m dirty just for touching you, harumph!)
I can’t think of anything that can’t technically be reduced to either “dirty” or “rude”! But I think such a reduction doesn’t really invalidate my point, especially given how much you have to stretch it when you realize that men can often get away with being topless where women cannot.
Sweat is often present! Therefore, OBVIOUSLY, germs are. Obviously. And That’s Terrible. (I feel the need to mention that I say this as an outsider—I merely have a very strong impression that Americans tend to be rather overwrought on the subject of hygiene.)
As for the sexism angle, I think men are expected to be careless about some part of their appearance. But more realistically, we’re culturally encouraged to view exposure of breasts as a sexual signal, but not pecs. So breasts are automatically ‘dirtier’.
Whereas it’s roleplay? (I confess that before you made that distinction, it didn’t occur to me that petplay was different enough from BDSM to be considered as a separate thing.)
Anyway it’s unclear to me what sort of scenario has actually played out for you. How much of this is based on your experiences, and how much on extrapolation?
That sounds like ‘their problem’ rather than ‘rude’, but maybe those are often the same thing.
I think your original point is perfectly valid. I was trying to figure out if there was anything other than unthinking gut disgust underlying these responses.
I’ve gone to a video store on all fours, and I’ve gone out leashed, but not at the same time. I’ve been openly affectionate to multiple people (all of us the same gender). I’ve done all sorts of gender bending. The price sign is also a personal example—I went to an electronics store, they had a triangular price sign that worked perfectly as a hat, and it was clear the employee that asked me to stop was seriously alarmed by the situation. I go barefoot routinely during the summer, and occasionally in the winter (0C / 32F hurts to walk in, but I’ll sometimes do it to the coffee shop 2 blocks from me just for fun :))
I don’t consider going around on all fours, leashed, to automatically be BDSM. BDSM suggests I’m getting something sexual out of it, that it’s a relationship activity rather than improv theatre, a sociology experiment, or just good fun weirding out the the normals with friends :) (In case it’s not clear from me kissing other girls in public, I’m fine being weird for it’s own sake AND weird ’cause girls are hot :))
I was taking an object which belonged to someone else, and using it in a way that they didn’t like, even though it was technically harmful. Sort of like if I borrowed your pencil without asking, or even introducing myself. My experience is people react to it as “rude”, rather than “theft”, since it’s obvious I don’t plan to keep the object, and I’m not harming it. I’m just touching something without permission.