(I don’t know to what extent I’m agreeing with Duncan’s statements here. I separately wrote comments about something like this new CFAR, though I’m not sure how much overlap there is between this vs. what I was commenting about. One thing my comments brought up was that I felt earlier CFAR things were, besides being often very helpful to many people including me, also not infrequently damaging to epistemics for group-related reasons, which seems possibly related to the “status differential” thing Duncan alludes to downthread. My comments touched on how CFAR in general and maybe Anna in particular did not nearly sufficiently treat incoming people as authors of the group narrative, and that this creates lots of distortionary effects (see for example https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/ksBcnbfepc4HopHau/dangers-of-deference ). And, similar to what Duncan says, this felt to me like a hydra / whack-a-mole type problem, where multiple patches didn’t address the underlying thing. Though, with that type of problem, it tends to be hard to accurately characterize (and judge and fix-or-endorse) the underlying thing.)
(I don’t know to what extent I’m agreeing with Duncan’s statements here. I separately wrote comments about something like this new CFAR, though I’m not sure how much overlap there is between this vs. what I was commenting about. One thing my comments brought up was that I felt earlier CFAR things were, besides being often very helpful to many people including me, also not infrequently damaging to epistemics for group-related reasons, which seems possibly related to the “status differential” thing Duncan alludes to downthread. My comments touched on how CFAR in general and maybe Anna in particular did not nearly sufficiently treat incoming people as authors of the group narrative, and that this creates lots of distortionary effects (see for example https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/ksBcnbfepc4HopHau/dangers-of-deference ). And, similar to what Duncan says, this felt to me like a hydra / whack-a-mole type problem, where multiple patches didn’t address the underlying thing. Though, with that type of problem, it tends to be hard to accurately characterize (and judge and fix-or-endorse) the underlying thing.)