I have identified myself with many subcultural groups over the years, and in pretty much all cases fallen flat on my epistemological face when I tried to solidify their definition speaking to others and not just in my head.
Some subcultures have their own undefinability as a subcultural trope, e.g. goth, which has excellent “I knows it when I sees it” but is notoriously unable to develop a concise definition those identifying it would put up with. (Including the author of this excellent and otherwise spot-on book, who spent a page and a half expertly dodging giving an actual definition. I called him out on this and he admitted it and laughed. Gah! He notes that if you ask two goths for a definition, you’ll get four answers.)
I have identified myself with many subcultural groups over the years, and in pretty much all cases fallen flat on my epistemological face when I tried to solidify their definition speaking to others and not just in my head.
Some subcultures have their own undefinability as a subcultural trope, e.g. goth, which has excellent “I knows it when I sees it” but is notoriously unable to develop a concise definition those identifying it would put up with. (Including the author of this excellent and otherwise spot-on book, who spent a page and a half expertly dodging giving an actual definition. I called him out on this and he admitted it and laughed. Gah! He notes that if you ask two goths for a definition, you’ll get four answers.)