One way you could apply it is by not endorsing so completely/confidently the kind of “rolling your own metaethics” that I argued against (that I see John as doing here), i.e., by saying “the distinction John is making here is correct, plus his advice on how to approach it.” (Of course you wrote that before I posted, but I’m hoping this is one of the takeaways people get from my post.)
Ok, there’s argument I can see of “unlike other domains, ethics/meta-ethics lacks any empirical feedback loop on beliefs [at least that we’ve found] and this means all such claims should be made more lightly than anything more empirical/factual”. Given that, perhaps more hedging is warranted than “is correct”.
Now even before any of this discussion, I’d have been extremely hesitant to lock in my meta-ethical views to ASI, but day to day though, I feel like I need some kind of ethical framework to operate on. That’s where I’m not sure about what to do other than figure out what makes sense to me, in the same way I do for other things.
I’d need to think longer/be convinced to switch to a more modest epistemology specifically for this domain, if that’s kind of the suggestion of “not rolling your own”. That feels like a big topic though.
But yeah, I can take away “be less confident” here.
Have you also seen https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/KCSmZsQzwvBxYNNaT/please-don-t-roll-your-own-metaethics which was also partly in response to that thread? BTW why is my post still in “personal blog”?
Yes, though I am unsure how to apply it. Your thread with Raemom was a little helpful.
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One way you could apply it is by not endorsing so completely/confidently the kind of “rolling your own metaethics” that I argued against (that I see John as doing here), i.e., by saying “the distinction John is making here is correct, plus his advice on how to approach it.” (Of course you wrote that before I posted, but I’m hoping this is one of the takeaways people get from my post.)
Ok, there’s argument I can see of “unlike other domains, ethics/meta-ethics lacks any empirical feedback loop on beliefs [at least that we’ve found] and this means all such claims should be made more lightly than anything more empirical/factual”. Given that, perhaps more hedging is warranted than “is correct”.
Now even before any of this discussion, I’d have been extremely hesitant to lock in my meta-ethical views to ASI, but day to day though, I feel like I need some kind of ethical framework to operate on. That’s where I’m not sure about what to do other than figure out what makes sense to me, in the same way I do for other things.
I’d need to think longer/be convinced to switch to a more modest epistemology specifically for this domain, if that’s kind of the suggestion of “not rolling your own”. That feels like a big topic though.
But yeah, I can take away “be less confident” here.