I agree with this in principle, but think that doing a good job of noting major failings of prominent moderates in the current environment would look very different than Eliezer’s comment and requires something stronger than just giving examples of some moderates which seem incorrect to Eliezer.
Another way to put this is that I think citing a small number of anecdotes in defense of a broader world view is a dangerous thing to do and not attaching this to the argument in the post is even more dangerous. I think it’s more dangerous when the description of the anecdotes is sneering and misleading. So, when using this epistemically dangerous tool, I think there is a higher burden of doing a good job which isn’t done here.
On the specifics here, I think Carlsmith’s report is unrepresentative for a bunch of reasons. I think Bioanchors is representative (though I don’t think it looks fucking nuts in retrospect).
This is putting aside the fact that this doesn’t engage with the arguments in the post at all beyond effectively reacting to the title.
I agree with this in principle, but think that doing a good job of noting major failings of prominent moderates in the current environment would look very different than Eliezer’s comment and requires something stronger than just giving examples of some moderates which seem incorrect to Eliezer.
Another way to put this is that I think citing a small number of anecdotes in defense of a broader world view is a dangerous thing to do and not attaching this to the argument in the post is even more dangerous. I think it’s more dangerous when the description of the anecdotes is sneering and misleading. So, when using this epistemically dangerous tool, I think there is a higher burden of doing a good job which isn’t done here.
On the specifics here, I think Carlsmith’s report is unrepresentative for a bunch of reasons. I think Bioanchors is representative (though I don’t think it looks fucking nuts in retrospect).
This is putting aside the fact that this doesn’t engage with the arguments in the post at all beyond effectively reacting to the title.