In my view, it’s always so hard to tell what was truly “botched”. Further, how can we know what level of influence the President has in such cases where something actually was botched? Regardless of what someone’s politics are, the federal gov’t and all the agencies that are somehow intertwined with it is huge, and I’m not sure to what extent one man’s incompetence has much to do with avoiding apparent gaffes that show up in the media.
Obamacare is a strange example of Obama’s incompetence, I think. I mean, they tried to roll out a hotly controversial brand new program in a nation of 300+ million people. It seems very likely in my view such a rollout would be loudly criticized for it’s flaws no matter how well it went. And it’s so early… might be a huge success or a big failure… no clue.
Ebola is another one I’m not sure about—How can we know what good looks like? And how can we tie that to Obama? Something like Ebola dominates the news cycle for x days/weeks and it seems to become evidence that things were botched; evidence that the guy in charge blew it. I mean reasonably, what could Barack Obama do about the spread of the Ebola virus? He listens to his expert advisers and makes a decision. Then some huge chain of command takes over, with possible weak links and mistakes poised to happen from the President down to the doctors and researchers on the front lines. Certainly possible it’s the President’s fault, but it seems unlikely.
Anyway, it seems to happen to both Reds and Blues. Make it political and try to tear down the other guy’s heroes and leaders.
In my view, it’s always so hard to tell what was truly “botched”. Further, how can we know what level of influence the President has in such cases where something actually was botched?
For any president, you can write down a list of bad things that happened, or policy initiatives that did not turn out well. But it’s hard to know if that is due to the sitting president being unusually bad, or just the circumstances being unusually bad. E.g. Obamacare has various flaws compared to an ideal health care system, and it would have been better if the websites had worked on schedule. But on the other hand Obama actually managed to pass some kind of universal health care (something that illustrious names like Clinton and Ted Kennedy had tried and failed). So does that mean that Obama is a bad health-care reformer, or an exceptionally good one? It’s hard to know, because we can’t contrafactually plonk down Abraham Lincoln in the 2008 White House chair and see how he will perform.
If you find yourself constantly having to invent excuses for why someone you have tribal reasons to support fails, consider the possibility that you’re rationalizing something.
In my view, it’s always so hard to tell what was truly “botched”. Further, how can we know what level of influence the President has in such cases where something actually was botched? Regardless of what someone’s politics are, the federal gov’t and all the agencies that are somehow intertwined with it is huge, and I’m not sure to what extent one man’s incompetence has much to do with avoiding apparent gaffes that show up in the media.
Obamacare is a strange example of Obama’s incompetence, I think. I mean, they tried to roll out a hotly controversial brand new program in a nation of 300+ million people. It seems very likely in my view such a rollout would be loudly criticized for it’s flaws no matter how well it went. And it’s so early… might be a huge success or a big failure… no clue.
Ebola is another one I’m not sure about—How can we know what good looks like? And how can we tie that to Obama? Something like Ebola dominates the news cycle for x days/weeks and it seems to become evidence that things were botched; evidence that the guy in charge blew it. I mean reasonably, what could Barack Obama do about the spread of the Ebola virus? He listens to his expert advisers and makes a decision. Then some huge chain of command takes over, with possible weak links and mistakes poised to happen from the President down to the doctors and researchers on the front lines. Certainly possible it’s the President’s fault, but it seems unlikely.
Anyway, it seems to happen to both Reds and Blues. Make it political and try to tear down the other guy’s heroes and leaders.
Compare his performance with other presidents.
All the “botches” suggested above are one-off affairs, there are no similar episodes to compare to.
Are you saying earlier presidents never had opportunities to botch things?
For any president, you can write down a list of bad things that happened, or policy initiatives that did not turn out well. But it’s hard to know if that is due to the sitting president being unusually bad, or just the circumstances being unusually bad. E.g. Obamacare has various flaws compared to an ideal health care system, and it would have been better if the websites had worked on schedule. But on the other hand Obama actually managed to pass some kind of universal health care (something that illustrious names like Clinton and Ted Kennedy had tried and failed). So does that mean that Obama is a bad health-care reformer, or an exceptionally good one? It’s hard to know, because we can’t contrafactually plonk down Abraham Lincoln in the 2008 White House chair and see how he will perform.
The key problem is that it’s worse then the system that was in place before.
If you find yourself constantly having to invent excuses for why someone you have tribal reasons to support fails, consider the possibility that you’re rationalizing something.
How?
Lots of variables. And what sort of objective measure would you use?