I still don’t get what’s actually supposed to be wrong about being arrogant. In all the examples I’ve found of actual arrogance it seems a good and sensible reaction when justified, and in the alleged cases of it casuing bad outcomes it never actualy is the arrogance itself that does, there is just an overconfidence causing both the arrogance and bad outcome. Is this just some social tabo because it *correlates with overconfidence?
If I behave arrogantly and as a consequence other people are less willing/able to coordinate effectively with me, would you consider that a bad outcome? If so, do you believe that never happens? Or would you say that in that case the cause of the bad outcome is other people’s reactions to my arrogance, rather than the arrogance itself? Or something else?
Yea, the only case of that bad outcome is peoples bad reactions to it, and further I can’t see why people should react badly to. It seem like an arbitrary and unfair taboo against a perfectly valid personality trait/emotional reaction.
So, just making sure I understand: you acknowledge that it does have these negative consequences at the moment, but you’re arguing that it’s a mistake to conclude that therefore arrogant people ought to change anything about themselves; the proper conclusion is that arrogance-averse folks should get over it and acknowledge the importance of equal treatment for arrogant people. Yes?
Ideally, yes, but that’s obviously not going to happen.
If I were to propose a coarse of action it’d be “Realize the question is more complex than it seems, that the situation is likely to require messy compromise and indirection, and to hold of on proposing solutions”
I still don’t get what’s actually supposed to be wrong about being arrogant. In all the examples I’ve found of actual arrogance it seems a good and sensible reaction when justified, and in the alleged cases of it casuing bad outcomes it never actualy is the arrogance itself that does, there is just an overconfidence causing both the arrogance and bad outcome. Is this just some social tabo because it *correlates with overconfidence?
If I behave arrogantly and as a consequence other people are less willing/able to coordinate effectively with me, would you consider that a bad outcome? If so, do you believe that never happens? Or would you say that in that case the cause of the bad outcome is other people’s reactions to my arrogance, rather than the arrogance itself? Or something else?
Yea, the only case of that bad outcome is peoples bad reactions to it, and further I can’t see why people should react badly to. It seem like an arbitrary and unfair taboo against a perfectly valid personality trait/emotional reaction.
So, just making sure I understand: you acknowledge that it does have these negative consequences at the moment, but you’re arguing that it’s a mistake to conclude that therefore arrogant people ought to change anything about themselves; the proper conclusion is that arrogance-averse folks should get over it and acknowledge the importance of equal treatment for arrogant people. Yes?
Ideally, yes, but that’s obviously not going to happen.
If I were to propose a coarse of action it’d be “Realize the question is more complex than it seems, that the situation is likely to require messy compromise and indirection, and to hold of on proposing solutions”