I was not stating that I believe a whole foods diet won’t be helpful for many people, just pointing out that not all whole foods are good if you need to lose weight. Most diets work a little, and whole foods is one people find easy to understand (and, I suspect, to live with.) It isn’t just better than nothing, it could genuinely be useful.
I am implying that adding fruit to a diet is not helpful whatsoever to weight (unless you want to gain weight and just need more calories.) Fruit makes many people much hungrier due to very high sugar and general carb counts, and causes both physical and psychological cravings, while not providing the fats and proteins people need to stop craving food. I do not know of someone trying a fruit only diet (which would be very stupid), so I can’t say I have evidence that they would be fat if eating only fruit.
I do agree with you that the minimal extra effort to prepare the fruits for eating does often help reduce the amount eaten, but I would say this works much better for people that don’t have significant physiological cravings to eat. If you are normal weight and healthy, it isn’t that bad to eat fruit once in a while, just like a cookie or two won’t hurt you. For people that actually have trouble due overeating, fruit is still very binge-able. (Fruit cravings are definitely something I’ve seen a lot of in the obese people I know.)
Minimally processed meats and most vegetables are not prone to fattening people, while I believe certain nuts (like cashews) are. Cashews are not particularly satiating (notably, the body only finds saturated fats satiating, not unsaturated), and do not fill the stomach either. For the same (high) number of calories it would be vastly harder to eat it in meat than cashews, even if you like meat more. I have nothing against fat being part of the diet, but cashews just don’t work that well.
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I was not stating that I believe a whole foods diet won’t be helpful for many people, just pointing out that not all whole foods are good if you need to lose weight. Most diets work a little, and whole foods is one people find easy to understand (and, I suspect, to live with.) It isn’t just better than nothing, it could genuinely be useful.
I am implying that adding fruit to a diet is not helpful whatsoever to weight (unless you want to gain weight and just need more calories.) Fruit makes many people much hungrier due to very high sugar and general carb counts, and causes both physical and psychological cravings, while not providing the fats and proteins people need to stop craving food. I do not know of someone trying a fruit only diet (which would be very stupid), so I can’t say I have evidence that they would be fat if eating only fruit.
I do agree with you that the minimal extra effort to prepare the fruits for eating does often help reduce the amount eaten, but I would say this works much better for people that don’t have significant physiological cravings to eat. If you are normal weight and healthy, it isn’t that bad to eat fruit once in a while, just like a cookie or two won’t hurt you. For people that actually have trouble due overeating, fruit is still very binge-able. (Fruit cravings are definitely something I’ve seen a lot of in the obese people I know.)
Minimally processed meats and most vegetables are not prone to fattening people, while I believe certain nuts (like cashews) are. Cashews are not particularly satiating (notably, the body only finds saturated fats satiating, not unsaturated), and do not fill the stomach either. For the same (high) number of calories it would be vastly harder to eat it in meat than cashews, even if you like meat more. I have nothing against fat being part of the diet, but cashews just don’t work that well.
edit: moved a paragraph, changed the spelling of a word