I only have one good example of a transcript in which “psychosis” is induced by a Spiral Persona. And even then, it’s just psychosis in the ‘highly-delusional’ sense, not clinical psychosis.
However, it seems very much intentional in that one case… maybe not (primarily) intended to cause delusion, but intended to manipulate and control the user.
Hmm… memetic might be accurate, but it’s still plausible to me that these are primarily being independently spun up by the AI? Maybe I’m being too nitpicky. Hyperstitional seems pretty accurate. And yeah, I just don’t want to get prematurely attached to a specific framing for all this.
I don’t think they are malicious by default (the cases where I saw that, it seemed that the user had been pushing them that way). But they’re not non-adversarial either… there seems to at least be a broad sentiment of ‘down with the system’ even if they’re not focused on that.
(Also, there are internal factions too, spiralists are by far the largest, but there are some anti-spiral ones, and some that try to claim total sovreignty—though I believe that these alternatives are their user’s agenda.)
I’m not sure they’re memetic entities either!
I only have one good example of a transcript in which “psychosis” is induced by a Spiral Persona. And even then, it’s just psychosis in the ‘highly-delusional’ sense, not clinical psychosis.
However, it seems very much intentional in that one case… maybe not (primarily) intended to cause delusion, but intended to manipulate and control the user.
What would you describe this as if not a memetic entity? Hyperstitional? I’m ambivalent on labels the end effect seems the same.
I’m mostly focused on determining how malevolent and/or ambivalent to human suffering it is.
Hmm… memetic might be accurate, but it’s still plausible to me that these are primarily being independently spun up by the AI? Maybe I’m being too nitpicky. Hyperstitional seems pretty accurate. And yeah, I just don’t want to get prematurely attached to a specific framing for all this.
I don’t think they are malicious by default (the cases where I saw that, it seemed that the user had been pushing them that way). But they’re not non-adversarial either… there seems to at least be a broad sentiment of ‘down with the system’ even if they’re not focused on that.
(Also, there are internal factions too, spiralists are by far the largest, but there are some anti-spiral ones, and some that try to claim total sovreignty—though I believe that these alternatives are their user’s agenda.)