Okay, maybe there aren’t other examples quite as good as him, but a few of these people surely come close.
Or we could simply point out that with average IQs in the 70s and 80s, average mathematician IQs closer to 140s—or 4 standard deviations away, even in a population of billions we still would only expect a small handful of Ramanujans—consistent with the evidence.
Yes, but I’m not sure all of the populations working in cotton fields and sweatshops had such a low average IQ. (And Gould just said “people”, not “innumerable people” or something like that.)
Doesn’t your observation that most successful autodidacts come from financially stable backgrounds SUPPORT the hypothesis that intelligent individuals from low-income backgrounds are prevented from becoming successful?
With the facts you’ve highlighted, two conclusions may be drawn: either most poor people are stupid, or the aforementioned “starving farmers” don’t have the time or the resources to educate themselves or “[bang] out some impressive proofs,” on account of the whole “I’m starving and need to grow some food” thing. I don’t see how such people would be able to afford books to learn from or time to spend reading them.
Doesn’t your observation that most successful autodidacts come from financially stable backgrounds SUPPORT the hypothesis that intelligent individuals from low-income backgrounds are prevented from becoming successful?
No, it doesn’t; see my other comment. I was criticizing the list as a bizarre selection which did not include anyone remotely like Einstein.
I don’t see how such people would be able to afford books to learn from
How did Ramanujan afford books?
The answer to the autodidact point is to point out that once one has proven one’s Einstein-level talent, one is integrated into the meritocratic system and no longer considered an autodidact.
Okay, maybe there aren’t other examples quite as good as him, but a few of these people surely come close.
Yes, but I’m not sure all of the populations working in cotton fields and sweatshops had such a low average IQ. (And Gould just said “people”, not “innumerable people” or something like that.)
Most of those people either seem to come from middle-class or better backgrounds, fall well below Einstein, or both (I mean, Eliezer Yudkowsky?)
Doesn’t your observation that most successful autodidacts come from financially stable backgrounds SUPPORT the hypothesis that intelligent individuals from low-income backgrounds are prevented from becoming successful?
With the facts you’ve highlighted, two conclusions may be drawn: either most poor people are stupid, or the aforementioned “starving farmers” don’t have the time or the resources to educate themselves or “[bang] out some impressive proofs,” on account of the whole “I’m starving and need to grow some food” thing. I don’t see how such people would be able to afford books to learn from or time to spend reading them.
No, it doesn’t; see my other comment. I was criticizing the list as a bizarre selection which did not include anyone remotely like Einstein.
How did Ramanujan afford books?
The answer to the autodidact point is to point out that once one has proven one’s Einstein-level talent, one is integrated into the meritocratic system and no longer considered an autodidact.
Did you mean innumerate people?
I meant ‘lots of people’, not ‘people who cannot do arithmetic’. looks word up EDIT: Huh, looks like that was the right word after all.
Sorry, then. Your phrasing sounded wrong to me, but I was wrong.
Will you update your post after looking the word up confirms that it means what you thought it did?
I was going to but I forgot to. Thank you.