Natasha Mitchell seems to have hit the obvious answer. If women didn’t enjoy sex and all mating was reluctant or forced:
Women would have a powerful reason not to participate in mixed-sexed social groups.
Men would have to expend considerable energy (= food) to find and rape women.
Children wouldn’t benefit from the support of their male relatives/tribe members/fathers.
And the female orgasm isn’t a remarkably complex adaptation, either; the genetic material responsible for the male orgasm was already present and relatively easy to repurpose. (Assuming that the male orgasm came first instead of the reverse, though simultaneous development is more likely than either.)
Modern humans have sex for a variety of reasons, yes. Regardless, individuals who do not enjoy sex are less likely to reproduce than individuals who do. I don’t believe this is a controversial idea.
Sure. But those pathways aren’t unrelated, and orgasms do contribute to enjoyment. To rephrase the grandparent, individuals who enjoy sex more are more likely to reproduce, all else being equal.
You should read the interview that was linked to; they talked about this very thing. And the guest cited evidence that she claimed supported her, which you should be aware of before arguing against her claim.
Natasha Mitchell seems to have hit the obvious answer. If women didn’t enjoy sex and all mating was reluctant or forced:
Women would have a powerful reason not to participate in mixed-sexed social groups.
Men would have to expend considerable energy (= food) to find and rape women.
Children wouldn’t benefit from the support of their male relatives/tribe members/fathers.
And the female orgasm isn’t a remarkably complex adaptation, either; the genetic material responsible for the male orgasm was already present and relatively easy to repurpose. (Assuming that the male orgasm came first instead of the reverse, though simultaneous development is more likely than either.)
Do you think that people only have sex because they might have an orgasm? Really?
Modern humans have sex for a variety of reasons, yes. Regardless, individuals who do not enjoy sex are less likely to reproduce than individuals who do. I don’t believe this is a controversial idea.
The point is that women generally enjoy sex even without orgasm.
Sure. But those pathways aren’t unrelated, and orgasms do contribute to enjoyment. To rephrase the grandparent, individuals who enjoy sex more are more likely to reproduce, all else being equal.
You should read the interview that was linked to; they talked about this very thing. And the guest cited evidence that she claimed supported her, which you should be aware of before arguing against her claim.