If you truly did believe that there was no need for a poll to generate a community decision, that should have been brought up one week ago.
I’m glad you brought this up—it emphasizes one of the problems with most attempts by people to have a vote to decide policy everyone else should submit to or to decide what the ‘group consensus’ is on a matter of fact. Most people aren’t paying attention to the little backwater thread where someone has taken upon themselves to form a norm enforcement committee. I, for example, hadn’t heard anything about any vote on this subject and I am fairly certain it is not for lack of participation on lesswrong!
The time to discuss whether or not we need to hold a vote is before that vote goes against you.
That is, if they can find the place to complain on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying “Beware of The Leopard”.′
People not noticing a vote you start is not an indication that they are going to support any norm you try to establish thereafter.
But for the sake of maintaining civility on this site, I will not defy a vote after the fact because it went a way I disapproved of.
I hereby declare that—wait, belay that. We hereby declare that we shall not consider it uncivil to ignore Minibear’s decree. Comments shall henceforth continue to be made on original threads or rerun threads as the commenter’s whims take them. We recognize no majority will in favor of directing all comments to SEQ_RERUN—indeed we observe that currently the trifling majority of people who happen to have noticed the vote and participated support original post commenting. All visible attempts to enforce Minibear’s faux-norm shall be met with mild ridicule!
My apologies it’s taken so long to respond. I’ve had difficulty getting internet access in the past several days. Looking back over this thread, I am afraid that we both have grown uncivil to the point of mindkilling, so I’m just going to stop talking about the original topic here.
Your point about the difficulty of finding polls is well taken. Even a poll one click away from the discussion section is not going to be seen by everyone who may be interested in the topic. In that case, the obvious thing to do is to not make polls in the comments of posts. If we do want to get a summary of the community’s opinion, the poll should be its own post. Making it a top level post seems to me a bit too excessive, so I think making polls out of discussion posts would be better.
I was tempted to post a poll here asking whether we wanted to generally adopt that policy, but I think I’d find it funnier than most other people would.
I’m glad you brought this up—it emphasizes one of the problems with most attempts by people to have a vote to decide policy everyone else should submit to or to decide what the ‘group consensus’ is on a matter of fact. Most people aren’t paying attention to the little backwater thread where someone has taken upon themselves to form a norm enforcement committee. I, for example, hadn’t heard anything about any vote on this subject and I am fairly certain it is not for lack of participation on lesswrong!
That is, if they can find the place to complain on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying “Beware of The Leopard”.′
People not noticing a vote you start is not an indication that they are going to support any norm you try to establish thereafter.
I hereby declare that—wait, belay that. We hereby declare that we shall not consider it uncivil to ignore Minibear’s decree. Comments shall henceforth continue to be made on original threads or rerun threads as the commenter’s whims take them. We recognize no majority will in favor of directing all comments to SEQ_RERUN—indeed we observe that currently the trifling majority of people who happen to have noticed the vote and participated support original post commenting. All visible attempts to enforce Minibear’s faux-norm shall be met with mild ridicule!
My apologies it’s taken so long to respond. I’ve had difficulty getting internet access in the past several days. Looking back over this thread, I am afraid that we both have grown uncivil to the point of mindkilling, so I’m just going to stop talking about the original topic here.
Your point about the difficulty of finding polls is well taken. Even a poll one click away from the discussion section is not going to be seen by everyone who may be interested in the topic. In that case, the obvious thing to do is to not make polls in the comments of posts. If we do want to get a summary of the community’s opinion, the poll should be its own post. Making it a top level post seems to me a bit too excessive, so I think making polls out of discussion posts would be better.
I was tempted to post a poll here asking whether we wanted to generally adopt that policy, but I think I’d find it funnier than most other people would.