I agree in general, but think this particular example is pretty reasonable because the point is general and just happens to be have been triggered by a specific post that 1a3orn thinks is an example of this (presumably this?).
I do think it’s usually better practice to list a bunch of examples of the thing you’re refering to, but also specific examples can sometimes be distracting/unproductive or cause more tribalism than needed? Like in this case I think it would probably be better if people considered this point in abstract (decoupled from implications) and thought about how much they agreed and then after applied this on a case by case basis. (A common tactic that (e.g.) scott alexander uses is to first make an abstract argument before applying it so that people are more likely to properly decouple.)
I have a hard time imagining someone writing this without subtweeting. Feels like classic subtweeting to me, especially “I think this is pretty obvious”. Like, it’s a trivially true point, all the debate is in the applicability/relevance to the situation. I don’t see any point in it except the classic subterfuge of lowering the status of something in a way that’s hard for the thing to defend itself against.
My standard refrain is that open aggression is better than passive aggression. The latter makes it hard to trust things / intentions, and makes people more paranoid and think that people are semi-covertly coordinating to lower their status around them all the time. For instance, and to be clear this is not the current state, but it would not be good for the health of LW for people to regularly see people discussing “obvious” points in shortform and ranting about people not getting them, and later find out it was a criticism of them about a post that they didn’t think would be subject to that criticism!
I agree in general, but think this particular example is pretty reasonable because the point is general and just happens to be have been triggered by a specific post that 1a3orn thinks is an example of this (presumably this?).
I do think it’s usually better practice to list a bunch of examples of the thing you’re refering to, but also specific examples can sometimes be distracting/unproductive or cause more tribalism than needed? Like in this case I think it would probably be better if people considered this point in abstract (decoupled from implications) and thought about how much they agreed and then after applied this on a case by case basis. (A common tactic that (e.g.) scott alexander uses is to first make an abstract argument before applying it so that people are more likely to properly decouple.)
I have a hard time imagining someone writing this without subtweeting. Feels like classic subtweeting to me, especially “I think this is pretty obvious”. Like, it’s a trivially true point, all the debate is in the applicability/relevance to the situation. I don’t see any point in it except the classic subterfuge of lowering the status of something in a way that’s hard for the thing to defend itself against.
My standard refrain is that open aggression is better than passive aggression. The latter makes it hard to trust things / intentions, and makes people more paranoid and think that people are semi-covertly coordinating to lower their status around them all the time. For instance, and to be clear this is not the current state, but it would not be good for the health of LW for people to regularly see people discussing “obvious” points in shortform and ranting about people not getting them, and later find out it was a criticism of them about a post that they didn’t think would be subject to that criticism!