As you say Joshua, ad hominem. Since you ask, it’s from providing therapy to friends who were damaged by the school system. But nobody here has alleged that I’m off-base in my description (as opposed to suggestions and conclusions), and therefore it doesn’t matter how I got an accurate description, only that I did. As I recently told a schooled friend who was taught silly rules, “The first rule of math is that it doesn’t matter how you get the correct answer, so long as it is correct.”
(I also explained that “Math is what you do when you don’t know what to do next. If you already know exactly how to solve a problem, it’s not math, it’s computation.”)
Ad hominem is when you stage an attack on one of someone’s unrelated characteristics in order to discredit his or her argument. This was not ad hominem at all, it was a pertinent question regarding your credentials to speak on the matter.
Ad hominem literally means “to the man” or “to the person”.
It was most certainly an ad hominem question, but given the framing he probably wasn’t intending to discredit the argument with the ad hominem and therefore didn’t commit the ad hominem fallacy.
The fallacy is making an ad hominem attack in order to distract from or discredit the argument without addressing the merits of the argument itself. The traits can certainly be related to the argument, and in fact the more closely related the traits are the more effective the fallacy is at convincing others (e.g. He’s wrong about QFT because he isn’t a physicist vs he’s wrong about QFT because he drinks milk—both fallacies, the first much more effective than the second). That doesn’t mean the ad hominem isn’t relevant nor worth discussing, it only means the ad hominem is not evidence against the argument. The fallacy lies in thinking that it is.
SORRY, idiots! (that’s not a.h. either)
It’s still ad hominem, it’s just not a logical fallacy (but given that the word “idiot” means a person with extra-ordinarily low intelligence, it’s almost certainly incorrect).
As you say Joshua, ad hominem. Since you ask, it’s from providing therapy to friends who were damaged by the school system. But nobody here has alleged that I’m off-base in my description (as opposed to suggestions and conclusions), and therefore it doesn’t matter how I got an accurate description, only that I did. As I recently told a schooled friend who was taught silly rules, “The first rule of math is that it doesn’t matter how you get the correct answer, so long as it is correct.”
(I also explained that “Math is what you do when you don’t know what to do next. If you already know exactly how to solve a problem, it’s not math, it’s computation.”)
Ad hominem is when you stage an attack on one of someone’s unrelated characteristics in order to discredit his or her argument. This was not ad hominem at all, it was a pertinent question regarding your credentials to speak on the matter.
SORRY, idiots! (that’s not a.h. either)
Ad hominem literally means “to the man” or “to the person”.
It was most certainly an ad hominem question, but given the framing he probably wasn’t intending to discredit the argument with the ad hominem and therefore didn’t commit the ad hominem fallacy.
The fallacy is making an ad hominem attack in order to distract from or discredit the argument without addressing the merits of the argument itself. The traits can certainly be related to the argument, and in fact the more closely related the traits are the more effective the fallacy is at convincing others (e.g. He’s wrong about QFT because he isn’t a physicist vs he’s wrong about QFT because he drinks milk—both fallacies, the first much more effective than the second). That doesn’t mean the ad hominem isn’t relevant nor worth discussing, it only means the ad hominem is not evidence against the argument. The fallacy lies in thinking that it is.
It’s still ad hominem, it’s just not a logical fallacy (but given that the word “idiot” means a person with extra-ordinarily low intelligence, it’s almost certainly incorrect).