The only way to change your value system is by using your value system to reflect upon your value system.
I agree with the message of your post and I up-voted it, but this sentence isn’t technically true. Outside forces that aren’t dependant on your value system can change your value system too. For example if you acquire a particular behaviour altering parasite or ingest substances that alter your hormone mix. This is ignoring things like you losing your memory or Omega deciding to rewire your
Our values are fragile, some see this as a reason to not be too concerned with them. I find this a rationalization similar to the ones use to deal with the fragility of life itself. Value deathism has parallel arguments to deathism.
What some here might call The Superinteligent Will but I see as a logical outgrowth of der Wille zur Macht, is to stamp your values on a uncaring universe.
What some here might call The Superinteligent Will but I see as a logical outgrowth of der Wille zur Macht, is to stamp your values on a uncaring universe.
Yeah I totally did, it fit my previous thinking (was very into Nietzsche a few years back too) and I’ve been building on it since.
Since this is I think the second time you’ve made a comment like this I’m wondering why exactly you feel the need to point this out. I mean surely you realize you’ve stolen stuff from me too right? And we both stole loads from a whole bunch of other people. Is this kind of like a bonding fist bump of a call for me to name drop you more?
Those who read our public exchanges know we are on good terms and that I like your stuff, not sure what more name dropping would do for you beyond that, especially since this is material from our private email exchanges and not a public article I can link to. If I recall the exchange the idea was inspired by a one line reply you made in a long conversation, so its not exactly something easily quotable either.
What some here might call The Superinteligent Will but I see as a logical outgrowth of der Wille zur Macht, is to stamp your values on a uncaring universe.
Is this why people like Nietzsche, or do most people who like Nietzsche have different reasons?
Our values are fragile, some see this as a reason to not be too concerned with them.
I think it really depends on the exact value change we’re talking about. There’s an analogue for death/aging—you’d probably greatly prefer aging another 10 years, then being frozen at that biological age forever, over aging and dying normally. In the same way, I might not consider a small drift in apparently unimportant values to big a deal in the grand scheme of things, and might not choose to spend resources guarding against this (slippery slope scenarios aside).
In practice, people don’t seem to be that concerned with guarding against small value changes. They do things like travel to new places, make new friends, read books, change religions, etc., all of which are likely to change what they value, often in unpredictable ways.
I agree with the message of your post and I up-voted it, but this sentence isn’t technically true. Outside forces that aren’t dependant on your value system can change your value system too. For example if you acquire a particular behaviour altering parasite or ingest substances that alter your hormone mix. This is ignoring things like you losing your memory or Omega deciding to rewire your
Our values are fragile, some see this as a reason to not be too concerned with them. I find this a rationalization similar to the ones use to deal with the fragility of life itself. Value deathism has parallel arguments to deathism.
What some here might call The Superinteligent Will but I see as a logical outgrowth of der Wille zur Macht, is to stamp your values on a uncaring universe.
You totally stole that from me!
Yeah I totally did, it fit my previous thinking (was very into Nietzsche a few years back too) and I’ve been building on it since.
Since this is I think the second time you’ve made a comment like this I’m wondering why exactly you feel the need to point this out. I mean surely you realize you’ve stolen stuff from me too right? And we both stole loads from a whole bunch of other people. Is this kind of like a bonding fist bump of a call for me to name drop you more?
Those who read our public exchanges know we are on good terms and that I like your stuff, not sure what more name dropping would do for you beyond that, especially since this is material from our private email exchanges and not a public article I can link to. If I recall the exchange the idea was inspired by a one line reply you made in a long conversation, so its not exactly something easily quotable either.
Is this why people like Nietzsche, or do most people who like Nietzsche have different reasons?
I think it really depends on the exact value change we’re talking about. There’s an analogue for death/aging—you’d probably greatly prefer aging another 10 years, then being frozen at that biological age forever, over aging and dying normally. In the same way, I might not consider a small drift in apparently unimportant values to big a deal in the grand scheme of things, and might not choose to spend resources guarding against this (slippery slope scenarios aside).
In practice, people don’t seem to be that concerned with guarding against small value changes. They do things like travel to new places, make new friends, read books, change religions, etc., all of which are likely to change what they value, often in unpredictable ways.