It so happens that the three “big lies” death mentions are all related to morality/ethics, which is a hard question. But let me take the conversation and change it a bit:
“So we can believe the big ones?”
Yes. Anger. Happiness. Pain. That sort of thing.
“They’re not the same at all!”
You think so? Then take the universe and grind it down to the finest powder and sieve it through the finest sieve and then show me one atom of happiness, one molecule of pain.
In this version, the final argument is still correct—if I take the universe and grind it down to a sieve, I will not be able to say “woo! that carbon atom is an atom of happiness”. Since the penultimate question of this meditation was “Is there anything else”, at least I can answer that question.
Clearly, we want to talk about happiness for many reasons—even if we do not value happiness in itself (for ourselves or others), predicting what will make humans happy is useful to know stuff about the world. Therefore, it is useful to find a way that allows us to talk about happiness. Happiness, though, is complicated, so let us put it aside for a minute to ponder something simpler: a solar system. I will simplify here, a solar system is one star and a bunch of planets rotating around it. Though solar systems effect each other through gravity or radiation, most of the effects of the relative motions inside a solar system comes from inside itself, and this pattern repeats itself throughout the galaxy. Much like happiness, being able to talk about solar systems is useful—though I do not particularly value solar systems in and of themselves, it’s useful to have a concept of “a solar system”, which describes things with commonalities, and allows me to generalize.
If I grind the universe, I cannot find an atom that is a solar system atom—grinding the universe down destroys the “solar system” useful pattern. For bounded minds, having these patterns leads to good predictive strength without having to figure out each and every atom in the solar system.
In essence, happiness is no different than solar system—both are crude words to describe common patterns. It’s just that happiness is a feature of minds (mostly human minds, but we talk about how dogs or lizards are happy, sometimes, and it’s not surprising—those minds are related algorithms). I cannot say where every atom is in the case of a human being happy, but some atom configurations are happy humans, and some are not.
So: at the very least, happiness and solar systems are part of the causal network of things. They describe patterns that influence other patterns.
Mercy is easier than justice and duty. Mercy is a specific configuration of atoms behaving a human in a specific way—even though the human feels they are entitled to cause another human hurt (“feeling entitled” is a set of specific human-mind-configurations, regardless of whether “entitlement” actually exists), but does not do so (for specific reasons, etc. etc.). In short, mercy describes specific patterns of atoms, and is part of causal networks.
Duty and justice—I admit that I’m not sure what my reductionist metaethics are, and so it’s not obvious what they mean in the causal network.
It so happens that the three “big lies” death mentions are all related to morality/ethics, which is a hard question. But let me take the conversation and change it a bit:
In this version, the final argument is still correct—if I take the universe and grind it down to a sieve, I will not be able to say “woo! that carbon atom is an atom of happiness”. Since the penultimate question of this meditation was “Is there anything else”, at least I can answer that question.
Clearly, we want to talk about happiness for many reasons—even if we do not value happiness in itself (for ourselves or others), predicting what will make humans happy is useful to know stuff about the world. Therefore, it is useful to find a way that allows us to talk about happiness. Happiness, though, is complicated, so let us put it aside for a minute to ponder something simpler: a solar system. I will simplify here, a solar system is one star and a bunch of planets rotating around it. Though solar systems effect each other through gravity or radiation, most of the effects of the relative motions inside a solar system comes from inside itself, and this pattern repeats itself throughout the galaxy. Much like happiness, being able to talk about solar systems is useful—though I do not particularly value solar systems in and of themselves, it’s useful to have a concept of “a solar system”, which describes things with commonalities, and allows me to generalize.
If I grind the universe, I cannot find an atom that is a solar system atom—grinding the universe down destroys the “solar system” useful pattern. For bounded minds, having these patterns leads to good predictive strength without having to figure out each and every atom in the solar system.
In essence, happiness is no different than solar system—both are crude words to describe common patterns. It’s just that happiness is a feature of minds (mostly human minds, but we talk about how dogs or lizards are happy, sometimes, and it’s not surprising—those minds are related algorithms). I cannot say where every atom is in the case of a human being happy, but some atom configurations are happy humans, and some are not.
So: at the very least, happiness and solar systems are part of the causal network of things. They describe patterns that influence other patterns.
Mercy is easier than justice and duty. Mercy is a specific configuration of atoms behaving a human in a specific way—even though the human feels they are entitled to cause another human hurt (“feeling entitled” is a set of specific human-mind-configurations, regardless of whether “entitlement” actually exists), but does not do so (for specific reasons, etc. etc.). In short, mercy describes specific patterns of atoms, and is part of causal networks.
Duty and justice—I admit that I’m not sure what my reductionist metaethics are, and so it’s not obvious what they mean in the causal network.
We could make it even easier :P
The harder question is what is a valid way of figuring out the important properties of the system.