Group B being bad is not something I said, but I get where you’re coming from. Indeed, “PETA is like the German Nazi Party in terms of their demonstrated commitment to animal welfare” is technically correct while also being misleading.
The strength of an analogy depends on how many crucial connections there are between the elements being compared.
What puts AI researchers closer to Leninism than other forms of paternalism is in the vanguardist self-conception, the utopian vision, and the dismissal of criticism due to a teleological view of history driving inevitable outcomes. Beyond that, other forms of paternalism are distinguished from Leninism and AI research by their socially accepted legitimacy.
What pattern-matches it away from Leninism is e.g. the specific ideological content, but the structural parallels are still oddly conspicuous, just like “your mom” being invoked in an ontological argument.
It’s an interesting comparison in a descriptive sense. To me the framing does encourage more general pattern-matching. Given the similarity, what follows? How should it change our beliefs or actions?
Do you think rationalism is comparable? The discourse on PauseAI and populism tends to center on the public’s inability to come to the “right” conclusion, even when the public’s preferences against AI development are strong and clear. There are a few utopian visions, a vanguardist self conception, and techno-optimism teleology.
Group B being bad is not something I said, but I get where you’re coming from. Indeed, “PETA is like the German Nazi Party in terms of their demonstrated commitment to animal welfare” is technically correct while also being misleading.
The strength of an analogy depends on how many crucial connections there are between the elements being compared.
What puts AI researchers closer to Leninism than other forms of paternalism is in the vanguardist self-conception, the utopian vision, and the dismissal of criticism due to a teleological view of history driving inevitable outcomes. Beyond that, other forms of paternalism are distinguished from Leninism and AI research by their socially accepted legitimacy.
What pattern-matches it away from Leninism is e.g. the specific ideological content, but the structural parallels are still oddly conspicuous, just like “your mom” being invoked in an ontological argument.
It’s an interesting comparison in a descriptive sense. To me the framing does encourage more general pattern-matching. Given the similarity, what follows? How should it change our beliefs or actions?
Do you think rationalism is comparable? The discourse on PauseAI and populism tends to center on the public’s inability to come to the “right” conclusion, even when the public’s preferences against AI development are strong and clear. There are a few utopian visions, a vanguardist self conception, and techno-optimism teleology.