For those of you who aren’t on irc, I realize now that publishing the logs unedited was the wrong thing to do. I’ve said so, apologized, removed things people have said on request, and am willing to do further. Past that, I don’t think it’s terribly relevant to this conversation.
I’ve already said as much.
Sorry, where? As far as I can tell, you’ve been steadfastly avoiding apologizing or even addressing things at all. All you’ve said to me is that you think my standard is too high.
I’ve been reading the sequences and the front-page posts for about six months and participating in the irc channel for a little bit less time than that, but I haven’t made an account until now. I offer my apologies in advance if this is in the wrong place. My intuition says this would do better as its own post, but alas, I do not have the necessary karma.
I should mention that there’s some hateful (specifically transphobic) content later in this post. If you think you’ll be upset by this, you might want to stop reading here.
So, #lesswrong is kind of an unfriendly place. I’ve been calling attention to racist and sexist remarks when I see them and can work up the nerve, but it could be a lot better. I’d paste some examples of these, but I don’t save logs from all conversations. It’s not uncommon to do so, so I’m sure someone has the ability to grep a few choice words and come up with some examples. I should also mention that I’m white and male, so I probably don’t notice a lot of hate that I should.
I’m queer, though, and I identify tentatively as genderqueer, so I noticed this:
Go back and read the whole thing, if you haven’t; specifically, I’m talking about gwern’s messages, not Algo’s.
And then, today, there was this:
Note that we hadn’t been talking about this since the previous post; gwern was going out of his way to provoke me.
I’m not sure what to do about this, especially since gwern is a well-respected member of LessWrong. I’m curious how the community feels about this. It obviously needs to be addressed, at the very least to stay within the bounds of freenode policy:
N.B. I’ve edited this post to fix the links; markdown reference-style links like
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apparently do not work.I’ve also gone back and edited out the unrelated statements of people who wanted me to; I may do that again on request.