RSS

Seth Herd

Karma: 6,849

Message me here or at seth dot herd at gmail dot com.

I was a researcher in cognitive psychology and cognitive neuroscience for about two decades. I studied complex human thought using neural network models of brain function. I’m applying that knowledge to figuring out how we can align AI as it becomes capable of all the types of complex thought that make humans capable and dangerous.

If you’re new to alignment, see the Research overview section below. Field veterans who are curious about my particular take and approach should see the More on approach section at the end of the profile.

Important posts:

Research overview:

Alignment is the study of how to give AIs goals or values aligned with ours, so we’re not in competition with our own creations. Recent breakthroughs in AI like ChatGPT make it possible we’ll have smarter-than-human AIs soon. So we’d better get ready. If their goals don’t align well enough with ours, they’ll probably outsmart us and get their way — and treat us as we do ants or monkeys. See this excellent intro video for more.

There are good and deep reasons to think that aligning AI will be very hard. But I think we have promising solutions that bypass most of those difficulties, and could be relatively easy to use for the types of AGI we’re most likely to develop first.

That doesn’t mean I think building AGI is safe. Humans often screw up complex projects, particularly on the first try, and we won’t get many tries. If it were up to me I’d Shut It All Down, but I don’t see how we could get all of humanity to stop building AGI. So I focus on finding alignment solutions for the types of AGI people are building.

In brief I think we can probably build and align language model agents (or language model cognitive architectures) even when they’re more autonomous and competent than humans. We’d use a stacking suite of alignment methods that can mostly or entirely avoid using RL for alignment, and achieve corrigibility (human-in-the-loop error correction) by having a central goal of following instructions. This scenario leaves multiple humans in charge of ASIs, creating some dangerous dynamics, but those problems might be navigated, too.

Bio

I did computational cognitive neuroscience research from getting my PhD in 2006 until the end of 2022. I’ve worked on computational theories of vision, executive function, episodic memory, and decision-making, using neural network models of brain function to integrate data across levels of analysis from psychological down to molecular mechanisms of learning in neurons, and everything in between. I’ve focused on the interactions between different brain neural networks that are needed to explain complex thought. Here’s a list of my publications.

I was increasingly concerned with AGI applications of the research, and reluctant to publish my full theories lest they be used to accelerate AI progress. I’m incredibly excited to now be working directly on alignment, currently as a research fellow at the Astera Institute.

More on approach

The field of AGI alignment is “pre-paradigmatic.” So I spend a lot of my time thinking about what problems need to be solved, and how we should go about solving them. Solving the wrong problems seems like a waste of time we can’t afford.

When LLMs suddenly started looking intelligent and useful, I noted that applying cognitive neuroscience ideas to them might well enable them to reach AGI and soon ASI levels. Current LLMs are like humans with no episodic memory for their experiences, and very little executive function for planning and goal-directed self-control. Adding those cognitive systems to LLMs can make them into cognitive architectures with all of humans’ cognitive capacities—a “real” artificial general intelligence that will soon be able to outsmart humans.

My work since then has convinced me that we could probably also align such an AGI so that it stays aligned even if it grows much smarter than we are. Instead of trying to give it a definition of ethics it can’t misunderstand or re-interpret (value alignment mis-specification), we’ll continue doing with the alignment target developers currently use: Instruction-following. It’s counter-intuitive to imagine an intelligent entity that wants nothing more than to follow instructions, but there’s no logical reason this can’t be done. An instruction-following proto-AGI can be instructed to act as a helpful collaborator in keeping it aligned as it grows smarter.

There are significant problems to be solved in prioritizing instructions; we would need an agent to prioritize more recent instructions over previous ones, including hypothetical future instructions.

I increasingly suspect we should be actively working to build such intelligences. It seems like our our best hope of survival, since I don’t see how we can convince the whole world to pause AGI efforts, and other routes to AGI seem much harder to align since they won’t “think” in English. Thus far, I haven’t been able to engage enough careful critique of my ideas to know if this is wishful thinking, so I haven’t embarked on actually helping develop language model cognitive architectures.

Even though these approaches are pretty straightforward, they’d have to be implemented carefully. Humans often get things wrong on their first try at a complex project. So my p(doom) estimate of our long-term survival as a species is in the 50% range, too complex to call. That’s despite having a pretty good mix of relevant knowledge and having spent a lot of time working through various scenarios. So I think anyone with a very high or very low estimate is overestimating their certainty.

Prob­lems with in­struc­tion-fol­low­ing as an al­ign­ment target

Seth HerdMay 15, 2025, 3:41 PM
45 points
14 comments10 min readLW link

An­thro­po­mor­phiz­ing AI might be good, ac­tu­ally

Seth HerdMay 1, 2025, 1:50 PM
35 points
6 comments3 min readLW link

LLM AGI will have mem­ory, and mem­ory changes alignment

Seth HerdApr 4, 2025, 2:59 PM
70 points
15 comments9 min readLW link

Whether gov­ern­ments will con­trol AGI is im­por­tant and neglected

Seth HerdMar 14, 2025, 9:48 AM
24 points
2 comments9 min readLW link

[Question] Will LLM agents be­come the first takeover-ca­pa­ble AGIs?

Seth HerdMar 2, 2025, 5:15 PM
36 points
10 comments1 min readLW link

OpenAI re­leases GPT-4.5

Seth HerdFeb 27, 2025, 9:40 PM
34 points
12 comments3 min readLW link
(openai.com)

Sys­tem 2 Alignment

Seth HerdFeb 13, 2025, 7:17 PM
35 points
0 comments22 min readLW link

Seven sources of goals in LLM agents

Seth HerdFeb 8, 2025, 9:54 PM
22 points
3 comments2 min readLW link

OpenAI re­leases deep re­search agent

Seth HerdFeb 3, 2025, 12:48 PM
78 points
21 comments3 min readLW link
(openai.com)

Yud­kowsky on The Tra­jec­tory podcast

Seth HerdJan 24, 2025, 7:52 PM
70 points
39 comments2 min readLW link
(www.youtube.com)

Grat­i­tudes: Ra­tional Thanks Giving

Seth HerdNov 29, 2024, 3:09 AM
29 points
2 comments4 min readLW link

Cur­rent At­ti­tudes Toward AI Provide Lit­tle Data Rele­vant to At­ti­tudes Toward AGI

Seth HerdNov 12, 2024, 6:23 PM
19 points
2 comments4 min readLW link

In­tent al­ign­ment as a step­ping-stone to value alignment

Seth HerdNov 5, 2024, 8:43 PM
37 points
8 comments3 min readLW link

“Real AGI”

Seth HerdSep 13, 2024, 2:13 PM
20 points
20 comments3 min readLW link

Con­flat­ing value al­ign­ment and in­tent al­ign­ment is caus­ing confusion

Seth HerdSep 5, 2024, 4:39 PM
49 points
18 comments5 min readLW link

If we solve al­ign­ment, do we die any­way?

Seth HerdAug 23, 2024, 1:13 PM
84 points
130 comments4 min readLW link

Hu­man­ity isn’t re­motely longter­mist, so ar­gu­ments for AGI x-risk should fo­cus on the near term

Seth HerdAug 12, 2024, 6:10 PM
46 points
10 comments1 min readLW link

Fear of cen­tral­ized power vs. fear of mis­al­igned AGI: Vi­talik Bu­terin on 80,000 Hours

Seth HerdAug 5, 2024, 3:38 PM
66 points
22 comments5 min readLW link

[Question] What’s a bet­ter term now that “AGI” is too vague?

Seth HerdMay 28, 2024, 6:02 PM
15 points
9 comments2 min readLW link

An­thropic an­nounces in­ter­pretabil­ity ad­vances. How much does this ad­vance al­ign­ment?

Seth HerdMay 21, 2024, 10:30 PM
49 points
4 comments3 min readLW link
(www.anthropic.com)