So, LW now posts blatantly partisan links about the current political brouhaha in the US. Sigh...
Or as Dunning put it recently over the phone from the University of Michigan, where he now teaches: “People don’t know what they don’t know.”
Shouldn’t he have attributed the quote to Rumsfeld and his “unknown unknowns”? X-/
And, of course, the Dunning-Kruger effect is a bit more complicated. For one thing, the actually competent people underestimate their abilities. The graph in the original paper looked at quartiles and the top quartile underestimated their competence.
You don’t think that Trump is in the top quartile of the US population?
Actually was thinking of the discussion last week on the fact that folks that don’t know how complex a task was, tended to de-value the difficulty of the skill involved, guess i should have added it to that thread.
I thought that including the theorist in the article added some value to it, wasn’t looking at the politics of it. Was also the only other pysch label i have seen assigned to him other than narcissist or worse.
LW is lots of people. Most of LW doesn’t and you’ll notice that the response to this has been consistently negative. morganism posts low-quality links all the time, unfortunately.
You don’t think that Trump is in the top quartile of the US population?
He’s clearly in the top quartile for many things. It’s not at all clear that he is for all. And, while indeed Dunning-Kruger is more complicated than just “incompetent people think too highly of themselves”, I also think it’s more complicated than “top quartile underestimate themselves while below-median people overestimate themselves”.
So, LW now posts blatantly partisan links about the current political brouhaha in the US. Sigh...
Shouldn’t he have attributed the quote to Rumsfeld and his “unknown unknowns”? X-/
And, of course, the Dunning-Kruger effect is a bit more complicated. For one thing, the actually competent people underestimate their abilities. The graph in the original paper looked at quartiles and the top quartile underestimated their competence.
You don’t think that Trump is in the top quartile of the US population?
Actually was thinking of the discussion last week on the fact that folks that don’t know how complex a task was, tended to de-value the difficulty of the skill involved, guess i should have added it to that thread.
I thought that including the theorist in the article added some value to it, wasn’t looking at the politics of it. Was also the only other pysch label i have seen assigned to him other than narcissist or worse.
LW is lots of people. Most of LW doesn’t and you’ll notice that the response to this has been consistently negative. morganism posts low-quality links all the time, unfortunately.
He’s clearly in the top quartile for many things. It’s not at all clear that he is for all. And, while indeed Dunning-Kruger is more complicated than just “incompetent people think too highly of themselves”, I also think it’s more complicated than “top quartile underestimate themselves while below-median people overestimate themselves”.