“The fact of the matter is that the attack on white culture, the attack on civilized culture, on our history, is very real.”
You don’t even seem to know your own history. There were absolutely 0 white people prior to the mid 16th century. Don’t get me wrong, there were people of European descent, but they weren’t called white until much later. And even then White didn’t include Italians, Irish, Armenians, etc… So when you say “White Culture” I can only assume you mean “WASP” culture. And, for the record, correlating ‘civilized culture’ with ‘white culture’ is racist… again, open a god damn history book.
“Any time I apply for a job, they always ask what your race is.” Really? What field do you work in, because that’s not my experience. In any case, most companies AA policies don’t come from government fiat, they come from the fact that teams with more diversity are more productive. So capitalism is the reason for that.
“I know as a matter of policy that if they don’t have enough people from this recognized group that they’ll hire a less qualified applicant over me, because of that.”
No you don’t. You don’t know that at all. There is no AA law in the United States that allows that. Does this exist in your country? Are you sure?
“Just knowing the deck is slightly skewed against you, because of some myth of you coming from a dominant, patriarchal, whatever-it-is.”
And here’s where it really comes out. You sire, can not see the numerous ways you are privileged. That’s it. You can not see the way you are privileged and so jump right to the Fundamental Attribution Error. You assume your problems come from unfair advantages, but everyone else’s comes from something ‘innate’
http://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Correspondence_bias
“A good comparison is feminism once again.”
No this isn’t a good comparison at all, it’s a horrible comparison.
“The fact that we aren’t allowed to have men’s-only gyms”
Are you more afraid of a woman raping you or a man raping you? That’s what I thought.
“That we aren’t allowed to have workplaces where men can fart”
No such place exists. It would be a violation of basic human rights.
“Then there’s the widespread attack on civilized values. … Meanwhile ghetto culture is glorified. There’s a consistent attack on people that obey the law. There’s a consistent attack on people that contribute to society.”
I very much doubt this. This might be true by some operational definitions of “civilized” and “ghetto”, but no… just no.
“European history, is nothing to be ashamed of.”
Actually there’s a lot to be ashamed of in European history. If you don’t think that you are sadistic.
“And yet it’s only ever European society, the society that invented the concept of human rights”
Actually it was a Middle Eastern society that first codified the rights of men. Where do you come up with this stuff.
“The society that eliminated slavery in the majority of the world, the society that spread medicine and education, and tried to uplift the poor, is the one that’s always denigrated. ”
Societies have been doing this ‘throughout history’
“How do you think whites feel? When we see that the interracial crime rate is even higher than that 7.5-to-8 times as violent.”
I think Whites feel like that shit happens to other people, because it does.
“And most whites have experienced something where they were subtly threatened or just plain insulted by a group of blacks.”
You really can’t see your racist assumptions here can you? Here are the questions. How many whites have insulted a white person? How many blacks are insulted by whites? what are the proportion of the population? You see where I’m going with this?
“So me, when I’m going to hire a doctor, if I see that you have black skin, I am going to assume on default that you got the job through affirmative action … you’re being treated like a child”
Okay, so you are in fact a racist. This would have gone faster if you started with this.
“And then there’s the attack on civilized values.”
You keep saying that! What does that even mean?
“the ghetto culture is killing the black race”
The black race huh? Does that include Australian Aborigines? What about South Indians? How much “black” makes someone a member of this “race”?
“the glorification of the ghetto hip-hop culture”
You clearly don’t know anything about hip-hop. And equating hip-hop with anti-white is like equating punk with anti-black.
“It’s not only insulting and bad for the whites living in the suburb, it’s destructive and bad for the blacks living in the ghettos. Celebrating their underperformance, rather than encouraging them, to do the best that they can. ”
Wait, I thought encouraging them to do the best they can was “pointless”...
“individually? it makes sense to avoid large black gatherings if you’re a white person, or even for that matter if you’re a black person. Violence is more likely to happen at those sorts of places.”
That’s not actually what the statistics say, at all. You’re still more likely to be harmed by a white person. Also, the locational aspect is not relevant. According to similar statistics, by your reasoning, you should avoid being with your friends and being in a car with someone else, because /statistically/ that’s more likely to result in harm.
“So is race realism racist? Well, not really.”
No, it’s always racist as long as it assumes race is a relevant measure before digging into demography.
“The fact of the matter is that the attack on white culture, the attack on civilized culture, on our history, is very real.” You don’t even seem to know your own history. There were absolutely 0 white people prior to the mid 16th century. Don’t get me wrong, there were people of European descent, but they weren’t called white until much later. And even then White didn’t include Italians, Irish, Armenians, etc… So when you say “White Culture” I can only assume you mean “WASP” culture. And, for the record, correlating ‘civilized culture’ with ‘white culture’ is racist… again, open a god damn history book.
“Any time I apply for a job, they always ask what your race is.” Really? What field do you work in, because that’s not my experience. In any case, most companies AA policies don’t come from government fiat, they come from the fact that teams with more diversity are more productive. So capitalism is the reason for that. “I know as a matter of policy that if they don’t have enough people from this recognized group that they’ll hire a less qualified applicant over me, because of that.” No you don’t. You don’t know that at all. There is no AA law in the United States that allows that. Does this exist in your country? Are you sure?
“Just knowing the deck is slightly skewed against you, because of some myth of you coming from a dominant, patriarchal, whatever-it-is.” And here’s where it really comes out. You sire, can not see the numerous ways you are privileged. That’s it. You can not see the way you are privileged and so jump right to the Fundamental Attribution Error. You assume your problems come from unfair advantages, but everyone else’s comes from something ‘innate’ http://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Correspondence_bias
“A good comparison is feminism once again.” No this isn’t a good comparison at all, it’s a horrible comparison.
“The fact that we aren’t allowed to have men’s-only gyms” Are you more afraid of a woman raping you or a man raping you? That’s what I thought.
“That we aren’t allowed to have workplaces where men can fart” No such place exists. It would be a violation of basic human rights.
“Then there’s the widespread attack on civilized values. … Meanwhile ghetto culture is glorified. There’s a consistent attack on people that obey the law. There’s a consistent attack on people that contribute to society.” I very much doubt this. This might be true by some operational definitions of “civilized” and “ghetto”, but no… just no.
“European history, is nothing to be ashamed of.” Actually there’s a lot to be ashamed of in European history. If you don’t think that you are sadistic.
“And yet it’s only ever European society, the society that invented the concept of human rights” Actually it was a Middle Eastern society that first codified the rights of men. Where do you come up with this stuff.
“The society that eliminated slavery in the majority of the world, the society that spread medicine and education, and tried to uplift the poor, is the one that’s always denigrated. ” Societies have been doing this ‘throughout history’
“How do you think whites feel? When we see that the interracial crime rate is even higher than that 7.5-to-8 times as violent.” I think Whites feel like that shit happens to other people, because it does.
“There’s actually more black-on-white hate crime than would be predicted by the innate levels of racial violence.” Really? Because this would seem to disagree with you? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/15/fbi-hate-crimes-target-bl_n_1095465.html
“And most whites have experienced something where they were subtly threatened or just plain insulted by a group of blacks.” You really can’t see your racist assumptions here can you? Here are the questions. How many whites have insulted a white person? How many blacks are insulted by whites? what are the proportion of the population? You see where I’m going with this?
“So me, when I’m going to hire a doctor, if I see that you have black skin, I am going to assume on default that you got the job through affirmative action … you’re being treated like a child” Okay, so you are in fact a racist. This would have gone faster if you started with this.
“And then there’s the attack on civilized values.” You keep saying that! What does that even mean?
“the ghetto culture is killing the black race” The black race huh? Does that include Australian Aborigines? What about South Indians? How much “black” makes someone a member of this “race”?
“the glorification of the ghetto hip-hop culture” You clearly don’t know anything about hip-hop. And equating hip-hop with anti-white is like equating punk with anti-black.
“It’s not only insulting and bad for the whites living in the suburb, it’s destructive and bad for the blacks living in the ghettos. Celebrating their underperformance, rather than encouraging them, to do the best that they can. ” Wait, I thought encouraging them to do the best they can was “pointless”...
“individually? it makes sense to avoid large black gatherings if you’re a white person, or even for that matter if you’re a black person. Violence is more likely to happen at those sorts of places.” That’s not actually what the statistics say, at all. You’re still more likely to be harmed by a white person. Also, the locational aspect is not relevant.
According to similar statistics, by your reasoning, you should avoid being with your friends and being in a car with someone else, because /statistically/ that’s more likely to result in harm.
“So is race realism racist? Well, not really.” No, it’s always racist as long as it assumes race is a relevant measure before digging into demography.