Option two is to point out that they’re talking sense now and acting compatibly with life, and one could not reasonably ask for more than that.
I’m mostly in the second camp. The penalty for being late should not be death, so go and sin no more.
Not sure I agree but I’ll have to think about it more.
Simulacrum-2 doesn’t mean “saying false things”—sometimes S2 says true things. When you discover that someone’s lied to you, do you shame them for saying the false thing, or do you shame them for being on S2 toward you? The latter is a kind of meta-lie that they’re always committing, even when they say true things. The meta-lie is “I’m saying this cause it’s true, not primarily to manipulate you”.
In personal relationships, you can forgive and give people chances to stop being S2 toward you. Or you might even tolerate their being on S2, because you’re convinced they really care about you (like an overprotective mom whom you love). But for public figures / “Narrative”, might it be acceptable to just say “they told a meta-lie, they still haven’t explicitly come clean on that meta-lie, so F them no matter what they say in the future, they blew their chance to ever earn my respect.”
Not sure I agree but I’ll have to think about it more.
Simulacrum-2 doesn’t mean “saying false things”—sometimes S2 says true things. When you discover that someone’s lied to you, do you shame them for saying the false thing, or do you shame them for being on S2 toward you? The latter is a kind of meta-lie that they’re always committing, even when they say true things. The meta-lie is “I’m saying this cause it’s true, not primarily to manipulate you”.
In personal relationships, you can forgive and give people chances to stop being S2 toward you. Or you might even tolerate their being on S2, because you’re convinced they really care about you (like an overprotective mom whom you love). But for public figures / “Narrative”, might it be acceptable to just say “they told a meta-lie, they still haven’t explicitly come clean on that meta-lie, so F them no matter what they say in the future, they blew their chance to ever earn my respect.”