if Alice sees Bob make good remarks etc., she’s more interested in ‘running a draft by him’ next time, or to respond positively if Bob asks her to look something over
This dynamic contributes to anxiety for me to comment in Google Docs, and makes it less fun than public commenting (apparently the opposite of many other people). I feel like if I fail to make a good contribution, or worse, make a dumb comment, I won’t be invited to future drafts and will end up missing a lot of good arguments, or entire articles because many drafts don’t get published until much later or ever. This is not a theoretical fear because I’ve “gotten in” to a couple of important and still unpublished drafts only by accidentally finding out about them and requesting invites.
Another thing that contributes to the anxiety is feeling a need to make a good first impression to people who are in the discussion who I’ve never talked to before because they don’t participate on public forums.
FYI, this was a significant update for me. I just wanted to note that this is a bigger part of my model now as opposed to an edge case tacked on.
I hadn’t actually been invited much to google docs where this dynamic would come up, but it makes sense that this experience would be common. (I’ve only actually talked to one other person who shared your experience, so still up for updating backwards again, but I don’t expect to)
Which should either cause me to downgrade the importance of the “feeling safer in a private space”, or have it apply a bit differently than I was expecting it to have applied. (I think it still applies to the author of the original paper, maybe less so to commenters. Although I do think think having a sense that your fellow commenters are being filtered for some kind of “on-the-same-page-ness” still improves the conversation in other ways)
Ah, yeah I think I’d feel the same if I were invited to docs that were either beyond my current reputation/social standing, or just, with a new group of people I don’t know as well. Especially if I considered it high stakes to keep getting into future similar discussions.
I think it’s a dramatically different experience when I invite or get invited to docs where I already know the people well, and already feel confident that I know how to contribute.
Another thing that contributes to the anxiety is feeling a need to make a good first impression to people who are in the discussion who I’ve never talked to before because they don’t participate on public forums.
It would be neat if Google Docs had settings for their comments to only allow the doc’s authors do see your comments, or to make yourself anonymous from other commenters on the doc. I think these kinds of features could help reduce this kind of anxiety when reviewing people’s docs.
This dynamic contributes to anxiety for me to comment in Google Docs, and makes it less fun than public commenting (apparently the opposite of many other people). I feel like if I fail to make a good contribution, or worse, make a dumb comment, I won’t be invited to future drafts and will end up missing a lot of good arguments, or entire articles because many drafts don’t get published until much later or ever. This is not a theoretical fear because I’ve “gotten in” to a couple of important and still unpublished drafts only by accidentally finding out about them and requesting invites.
Another thing that contributes to the anxiety is feeling a need to make a good first impression to people who are in the discussion who I’ve never talked to before because they don’t participate on public forums.
FYI, this was a significant update for me. I just wanted to note that this is a bigger part of my model now as opposed to an edge case tacked on.
I hadn’t actually been invited much to google docs where this dynamic would come up, but it makes sense that this experience would be common. (I’ve only actually talked to one other person who shared your experience, so still up for updating backwards again, but I don’t expect to)
Which should either cause me to downgrade the importance of the “feeling safer in a private space”, or have it apply a bit differently than I was expecting it to have applied. (I think it still applies to the author of the original paper, maybe less so to commenters. Although I do think think having a sense that your fellow commenters are being filtered for some kind of “on-the-same-page-ness” still improves the conversation in other ways)
FYI I’ve had this experience as well, though it’s not particularly strong or common.
Ah, yeah I think I’d feel the same if I were invited to docs that were either beyond my current reputation/social standing, or just, with a new group of people I don’t know as well. Especially if I considered it high stakes to keep getting into future similar discussions.
I think it’s a dramatically different experience when I invite or get invited to docs where I already know the people well, and already feel confident that I know how to contribute.
It would be neat if Google Docs had settings for their comments to only allow the doc’s authors do see your comments, or to make yourself anonymous from other commenters on the doc. I think these kinds of features could help reduce this kind of anxiety when reviewing people’s docs.