I think of this as a call to temporarily focus on that part of the equation so one can realize that this is what most modesty arguments are actually motivated by, and that such arguments are not useful in dealing with the object level so you should ignore them in favor of examining the object level directly. It’s a call to stop paying attention to status arguments (including when they take the form of modesty arguments) so you can see the object level.
Then there’s the mostly seperate question of using status and social dynamics as tools to analyze the failures of systems, which I agree is a useful tool that shouldn’t take up that much of our time.
Hmm. The way this feels to me is the way you once described the phrase “You shouldn’t feel bad about X”, or “If you did X, I wouldn’t blame you.” Technically the phrase is saying not to blame people, but it’s creating the implication that maybe we should blame people.
This feels similarly—since the whole thing focuses on the status frame, it encourages thinking about the status frame even if it’s saying not to.
(I think the net impact of InEq + This Post probably ends up pointing collectively in the right direction, with the right balance, I’m mostly disagreeing with (what I assumed to be) your initial point that this is an all-around better post, at least for the audience that needed to most hear it)
I think of this as a call to temporarily focus on that part of the equation so one can realize that this is what most modesty arguments are actually motivated by, and that such arguments are not useful in dealing with the object level so you should ignore them in favor of examining the object level directly. It’s a call to stop paying attention to status arguments (including when they take the form of modesty arguments) so you can see the object level.
Then there’s the mostly seperate question of using status and social dynamics as tools to analyze the failures of systems, which I agree is a useful tool that shouldn’t take up that much of our time.
Hmm. The way this feels to me is the way you once described the phrase “You shouldn’t feel bad about X”, or “If you did X, I wouldn’t blame you.” Technically the phrase is saying not to blame people, but it’s creating the implication that maybe we should blame people.
This feels similarly—since the whole thing focuses on the status frame, it encourages thinking about the status frame even if it’s saying not to.
(I think the net impact of InEq + This Post probably ends up pointing collectively in the right direction, with the right balance, I’m mostly disagreeing with (what I assumed to be) your initial point that this is an all-around better post, at least for the audience that needed to most hear it)