Seconding this. The phenomenon where people say “everyone this” and “everyone that”, and you’re an even slightly “weird” person (such as, like, everyone on this entire website), and you think “not me!”… that is, in fact, so common that even saying it out loud is trite. Yeah, of course not literally everyone, and you already know you’re weird, so especially probably not you specifically.
dude, this is incredibly rude. yeah, I mean, of course agreed, but duncan said he knew that. I also find it slightly surprising it pushed his buttons as hard as it seems to have, but, that’s how he’s shaped. He’s saying it still happens even in crowds like this one, anyhow.
(I note that I don’t think it’s rude so much as … not particularly useful? Like, it’s mostly evidence that Said (also JBlack) has completely failed to parse my point (and has failed to keep “maybe there’s something I’m not seeing/am blind to” in mind as a possibility, and instead concluded “there’s nothing here except something trite/trivial/silly.”))
For information I’d also qualify Said’s statement as unkind (because of “saying it out loud is trite”) if I modeled him as having understood or caring about Duncan and his point, but because that’s not the case I understand Duncan just seeing it as not useful. “Rude” is a classification depending on shared social norms. On LW I don’t think people are supposed to care about you, the basic assumption is more Rand like individuals who trade ideas because it’s positive sum. That a lot of people happen to be nice is a nice surprise, but it’s not expected, and I have gotten value from Said’s comments in many places over time so I feel the LW norm makes sense.
Seconding this. The phenomenon where people say “everyone this” and “everyone that”, and you’re an even slightly “weird” person (such as, like, everyone on this entire website), and you think “not me!”… that is, in fact, so common that even saying it out loud is trite. Yeah, of course not literally everyone, and you already know you’re weird, so especially probably not you specifically.
dude, this is incredibly rude. yeah, I mean, of course agreed, but duncan said he knew that. I also find it slightly surprising it pushed his buttons as hard as it seems to have, but, that’s how he’s shaped. He’s saying it still happens even in crowds like this one, anyhow.
Rude? What…? I’m agreeing with the comment that I replied to.
(I note that I don’t think it’s rude so much as … not particularly useful? Like, it’s mostly evidence that Said (also JBlack) has completely failed to parse my point (and has failed to keep “maybe there’s something I’m not seeing/am blind to” in mind as a possibility, and instead concluded “there’s nothing here except something trite/trivial/silly.”))
fair enough.
For information I’d also qualify Said’s statement as unkind (because of “saying it out loud is trite”) if I modeled him as having understood or caring about Duncan and his point, but because that’s not the case I understand Duncan just seeing it as not useful.
“Rude” is a classification depending on shared social norms. On LW I don’t think people are supposed to care about you, the basic assumption is more Rand like individuals who trade ideas because it’s positive sum. That a lot of people happen to be nice is a nice surprise, but it’s not expected, and I have gotten value from Said’s comments in many places over time so I feel the LW norm makes sense.