I agree and think this is a weakness within the rationality community’s approach to training. The challenge is that it’s hard to be a student, and rationality disproportionately attracts folks who are bad at being students (too many folks who are overly independent, avoidant, recalcitrant, of otherwise generally defiant of allowing themselves to be dominated by our subservient to others). Further, I’m not sure there are many good teachers within rationality in the sense you’d be willing to give them the kind of trust a Zen teacher asks of a student. Thus rationality has to take a different approach, offering up a whole bunch of stuff and some guidance about how to use it, but also largely leaving people to their own devices because of a combination of lacking stronger culture of a particular kind and having a culture that prefers going it alone.
I agree and think this is a weakness within the rationality community’s approach to training. The challenge is that it’s hard to be a student, and rationality disproportionately attracts folks who are bad at being students (too many folks who are overly independent, avoidant, recalcitrant, of otherwise generally defiant of allowing themselves to be dominated by our subservient to others). Further, I’m not sure there are many good teachers within rationality in the sense you’d be willing to give them the kind of trust a Zen teacher asks of a student. Thus rationality has to take a different approach, offering up a whole bunch of stuff and some guidance about how to use it, but also largely leaving people to their own devices because of a combination of lacking stronger culture of a particular kind and having a culture that prefers going it alone.