Mati_Roy(Mati Roy)
i want a better conceptual understanding of what “fundamental values” means, and how to disentangled that from beliefs (ex.: in an LLM). like, is there a meaningful way we can say that a “cat classifier” is valuing classifying cats even though it sometimes fail?
when potentially ambiguous, I generally just say something like “I have a different model” or “I have different values”
it seems to me that disentangling beliefs and values are important part of being able to understand each other
and using words like “disagree” to mean both “different beliefs” and “different values” is really confusing in that regard
topic: economics
idea: when building something with local negative externalities, have some mechanism to measure the externalities in terms of how much the surrounding property valuation changed (or are expected to change based, say, through a prediction market) and have the owner of that new structure pay the owners of the surrounding properties.
I wonder what fraction of people identify as “normies”
I wonder if most people have something niche they identify with and label people outside of that niche as “normies”
if so, then a term with a more objective perspective (and maybe better) would be non-<whatever your thing is>
like, athletic people could use “non-athletic” instead of “normies” for that class of people
just a loose thought, probably obvious
some tree species self-slected themselves for height (ie. there’s no point in being a tall tree unless taller trees are blocking your sunlight)
humans were not the first species to self-select (although humans can now do it intentionally)
on human self-selection: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/309096532_Survival_of_the_Friendliest_Homo_sapiens_Evolved_via_Selection_for_Prosociality
Board game: Medium
2 players reveal a card with a word, then they need to say a word based on that and get points if it’s the same word (basically, with some more complexities).
Example at 1m20 here: https://youtu.be/yTCUIFCXRtw?si=fLvbeGiKwnaXecaX
I’m glad past Mati cast a wider net has the specifics for this year’s Schelling day are different ☺️☺️
idk if the events are often going over time, but I might pass by now if it’s still happening ☺️
I liked reading your article; very interesting! 🙏
One point I figured I should x-post with our DMs 😊 --> IMO, if one cares about future lives (as much as present ones) then the question stops really being about expected lives and starts just being about whether an action increases or decreases x-risks. I think a lot/all of the tech you described also have a probability of causing an x-risk if they’re not implemented. I don’t think we can really determine whether a probability of some of those x-risk is low enough in absolute terms as those probabilities would need to be unreasonably low, leading to full paralysis, and full paralysis could lead to x-risk. I think instead someone with those values (ie. caring about unborn people) should compare the probability of x-risks if a tech gets developed vs not developed (or whatever else is being evaluated). 🙂
new, great, complementary post: Critical Questions about Patient Care in Cryonics and Biostasis
I love this story so much, wow! It feels so incredibly tailored to me (because it is 😄). I value that a lot! It’s a very scarce resource to begin with, but it hardly gets more tailored than that 😄
that’s awesome; thanks for letting me know :)
[Question] Which LessWrongers are (aspiring) YouTubers?
i’d be curious to know how the first event went if you’re inclined to share ☺
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cars won’t replace horses, horses with cars will
from ChatGPT
Sounds like a fun challenge! Here are 50 ways
to send something to the moon:
1. Catapult
2. Giant crossbow
3. Balloon with an endless supply of helium
4. A giant seesaw
5. Sky elevator
6. Beam of light (if the object can ride light)
7. Teleportation device
8. Moon magnet
9. Whale blowhole
10. Bubble with a perfect vacuum inside
11. Tornado creator
12. Inflatable space tube
13. A jump by the Hulk
14. Sonic boom from a supersonic plane
15. Floating on a cloud machine
16. Warp drive
17. Ice cannon
18. Rocket rollercoaster
19. A super springboard
20. Fling via a giant trebuchet
21. Antigravity boots
22. Pneumatic tube system
23. Ride on a meteor
24. Build stairs to the moon
25. Giant hamster wheel that propels forward
26. Human pyramid
27. Bounce house to the moon
28. A moon hook and pull system
29. Jetpack
30. Superfast elevator
31. A gigantic yo-yo system
32. Umbrella carried by solar winds
33. Giant’s throw
34. Rocket sneakers
35. Bungee cord to the moon
36. Space swing set
37. Moon vacuum
38. Space surfboard
39. Massive drone
40. Launch via space trebuchet
41. Space pogo stick
42. Inflatable space mountain
43. Magnetic repulsion system
44. Time travel to when the moon was closer
45. Huge space slingshot
46. Giant space slinky
47. An extremely powerful fan
48. A chain of trampolines
49. Magic carpet
50. Use a giant’s bow and arrow
thanks, it worked! https://web.archive.org/web/20150412211654/http://reducing-suffering.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/wild-animals_2015-02-28.pdf