Hey! Connor here. I’ll be willing to host if you really can’t. Just send me all the “host” information I should know about and thing such as that. Mainly just private message me and we’ll go from there. (either through less wrong or connordpitts@gmail.com) Cheers!
CitizenTen
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All set. I got transferred to host. Nothing should change. Though tbh, it shouldn’t matter much. It’s mainly just a shelling point. I’m sure even if Jessie did nothing someone would show up. But yeah. See you there!
Host was transferred to me. Bird park and same time, yadda, yadda. Nothing should change. See you there!
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Had an awesome meetup. If anyone wanted to meet but just didn’t get the chance, you’re welcome to join the newly minted discord server: https://discord.gg/4A4qHh52Ep
San Diego Less Wrong
No. For whatever reason, on the backend it says 1:00 pm. It just says GMT and either you can’t change that, or I haven’t found out how. (So it’s at 1 pm, a more sane time )
Thanks for the help! Now let’s just hope that no one reads it as 8 pm and decides that’s the time!
On the having a shoulder Duncan, I explicitly tried to do this upon listening to you being interviewed by Spencer Greenberg. Sadly, digital Duncan doesn’t exist in large enough quantities to emulated. So for those of us that don’t happen to live (I assume) in the Bay Area, can Duncan increase how many podcast or video’s he’s on? Having a shoulder Duncan sounds really useful to a large number of people you interact with and enlarging that pool purposely seems to be a pretty good idea. Food for thought?
Hmmm… It seems that someone has thought of doing the exact same thing? Though considering the digging I had to go to find it, it should be more prominent.
https://wiki.lesswrong.com/images/c/ca/How_to_Run_a_Successful_Less_Wrong_Meetup_Group.pdf
SSC/Lesswrong San Diego Meetup
Continuing with the pattern, our next meetup would be Saturday, Nov 13. @Connor /CitizenTen won’t be able to make it, so Zach offered to help coordinate. We’ll meet at the same place as last time: Bird Park (here, at least initially: https://what3words.com/judge.salad.older) and the same time: 1pm PT.
Separately, Zach volunteered to help put together a small activity to try to encourage interesting conversations. We can pilot it at this next meetup, if there’s interest. (Like any pilot, we can bail on it if it doesn’t seem to be working.) Elevator pitch: A game where you answer questions to show how well you know someone — except that you just met them, and have only had 10 minutes to talk. The idea here is to encourage folks to cut through some of the “small talk” and try to figure out how to quickly/efficiently learn enough about someone that you can predict how they might answer some questions. The rough idea is that we’ll partner up, get to know each other, and then have some of the partnerships answer questions. • To assess how well you understand your partner’s values, I might ask: Does Partner [A|B] believe torture is ever permissible? • To assess how well you understand the way your partner evaluates trade-offs, I might ask: Partner [A|B] is offered a choice between $10k and a 1-in-10 chance of $100k. Which do they pick? • As a fun experiment in coordination, I might ask: Pick a number. Of course, I wouldn’t ask exactly these questions; that would be too easy. If you’d like to suggest questions, we can build a pool: https://forms.gle/8zQZiEyMeh2LZNBi9. (don’t share them here to avoid spoilers).
Silly question warning.
You think that when an AI performs a bad action, (say remove the diamond) the AI has to have knowledge that the diamond is in fact no longer there. Even when the camera shows the diamond is (falsely) there and the human confirms that the diamond is there.
You call this ELK
You want the human to have access to this knowledge, as this is useful to choosing decisions that the human wants.
This is hard. So you have people propose how to do this.
And then people try to explain why that strategy wouldn’t work.
Rinse and repeat.
Once you have a proposal that nobody is able to show doesn’t work.… profit?
Correct any misunderstandings in my basic overview above.
SSC Meetup San Diego
SPARC Applications Are Now Live!
Rationalist Should Win. Not Dying with Dignity and Funding WBE.
Yeah. Why I said “generally.” Obviously if you emulate Stalin bad things will happen. Slightly off topic but I’d say those leader’s weren’t “unconstrained” and revealed something about human nature, but were constrained as any ruler and had to follow the Dictator’s Handbook to stay in power.
Could you please post this on Fanfiction.net, AO3, or cross-posted to r/rational or r/hpmor? I’m really enjoying this story but its hard to get notified when you post a new update. Also, this is great and deserves more eyeballs on it.