the issue is whether something happens efficiently enough to be local or fast enough to accumulate advantage between the leading Friendly AI and the leading unFriendly AI
Uh, that’s a totally different issue from the one I was discussing.
To recap: I was pointing out that machines have been writing code and improving themselves for decades—that refactoring and lint-like programs applying their own improvements to their own codebases has a long history in the community—dating back to the early days of Smalltalk. That progress in computer ability at self-improvement (via modification of your own codebase) is, in point of fact, a long, slow and gradual process that has been going on for decades so far—and thus is not really well conceived of as being something that will happen suddenly in the future—when computers attain “insight”.
Also, I notice that you have “quietly” edited the original post—in an attempt to eliminate the very point I was originally criticising. This rather makes it look as though I was misquoting you. Then you accuse me of attacking a straw man—after this clumsy attempt to conceal the original evidence. Oh well, at least you are correcting your own mistakes when they are pointed out to you—it seems like a kind of progress to me.
Uh, that’s a totally different issue from the one I was discussing.
To recap: I was pointing out that machines have been writing code and improving themselves for decades—that refactoring and lint-like programs applying their own improvements to their own codebases has a long history in the community—dating back to the early days of Smalltalk. That progress in computer ability at self-improvement (via modification of your own codebase) is, in point of fact, a long, slow and gradual process that has been going on for decades so far—and thus is not really well conceived of as being something that will happen suddenly in the future—when computers attain “insight”.
Also, I notice that you have “quietly” edited the original post—in an attempt to eliminate the very point I was originally criticising. This rather makes it look as though I was misquoting you. Then you accuse me of attacking a straw man—after this clumsy attempt to conceal the original evidence. Oh well, at least you are correcting your own mistakes when they are pointed out to you—it seems like a kind of progress to me.