EY: ‘Until the end of time we will be a species that has used fission bombs in anger.’
The decision was a calculated political decision made to let the Soviet Union know that we were(are) crazy enough to use nuclear weaponry even when unnecessary. Truman knew the Japanese were running out of time:
“Truman himself eloquently noted in his diary that Stalin would “be in the Jap War on August 15th. Fini (sic) Japs when that comes about.”
EY: ‘Time has passed, and we still haven’t blown up our world, despite a close call or two. Which makes it difficult to criticize the decision - ’.
Non sequitur.
Whether or not we blow ourselves up, either with a nuclear device or an AI, has no relationship to that first use of a nuclear weapon. The facts at the time of those ‘close calls or two’ carry no similarity to the facts of the first use, staring with ALL sides had access to the big nukes during every subsequent ‘close call’; that at the time of the ‘close calls’ that it was common knowledge the effects of nuclear war would have even without the example of the first use; that it was commonly accepted by all that one launch would result in a retaliation.
The decision is easy to criticize. It was used not for any purpose of ending the war, but rather just to send a ‘message’ from one ‘super’ power to another ‘super’ power. It is easy to criticize the decision even if it ‘saved’ some projected number of one nation’s population at the cost of some of another nation’s population. It is always in the hands of the ‘forecasters’ of those about to kill others in the name of some cause, war, religion, etc. to be able to proclaim saving lives or acceptable losses. It’s standard propaganda of the winner. (and of the loser, until they lose.)
The first implementation AI is analogous to the the first strike nuclear situation. Fortunately, from what I gather, there will only be one implementation because I’d hate to see an AI Cold War… :)
Off for my hike into the wilderness. Remember: exercise, eat less, sleep well and be good to others. And have some fun.
EY: ‘Until the end of time we will be a species that has used fission bombs in anger.’
The decision was a calculated political decision made to let the Soviet Union know that we were(are) crazy enough to use nuclear weaponry even when unnecessary. Truman knew the Japanese were running out of time:
“Truman himself eloquently noted in his diary that Stalin would “be in the Jap War on August 15th. Fini (sic) Japs when that comes about.”
EY: ‘Time has passed, and we still haven’t blown up our world, despite a close call or two. Which makes it difficult to criticize the decision - ’.
Non sequitur.
Whether or not we blow ourselves up, either with a nuclear device or an AI, has no relationship to that first use of a nuclear weapon. The facts at the time of those ‘close calls or two’ carry no similarity to the facts of the first use, staring with ALL sides had access to the big nukes during every subsequent ‘close call’; that at the time of the ‘close calls’ that it was common knowledge the effects of nuclear war would have even without the example of the first use; that it was commonly accepted by all that one launch would result in a retaliation.
The decision is easy to criticize. It was used not for any purpose of ending the war, but rather just to send a ‘message’ from one ‘super’ power to another ‘super’ power. It is easy to criticize the decision even if it ‘saved’ some projected number of one nation’s population at the cost of some of another nation’s population. It is always in the hands of the ‘forecasters’ of those about to kill others in the name of some cause, war, religion, etc. to be able to proclaim saving lives or acceptable losses. It’s standard propaganda of the winner. (and of the loser, until they lose.)
The first implementation AI is analogous to the the first strike nuclear situation. Fortunately, from what I gather, there will only be one implementation because I’d hate to see an AI Cold War… :)
Off for my hike into the wilderness. Remember: exercise, eat less, sleep well and be good to others. And have some fun.
wallowamountainman.