often times people with the technical skills struggle with finding good reasons to do their thing
I used to be a pretty competent programmer, but I graduated at a time when the field was pretty flooded and couldn’t find a job right away. My skills quickly became out of date (my year specialized in PalmOS, of all things) and I stopped looking for work in the field. These days I’m almost fully lapsed in this area. I mostly use my understanding of algorithms and data structures to organize my day-to-day tasks where possible, and I usually have a clue what the tech headlines are talking about. I have used my programming background to automate some of my work tasks, but I haven’t needed to work on those programs in a few years now beyond basic maintenance.
what my teachers did was to come up with a concept, and then hire people with the technical skills to actually create the thing well
Specialization is an excellent strategy! I find it pairs well with my style of learning: either I know enough about a thing to speak fluently with the experts, or I know how to learn that much. As I said before, practical skills are important too, and one reason is that almost all tasks have so much more detail than a how-to can convey. If I can learn to do the basics well, it helps me find the good experts too.
What types of skills did you pick up [from Buddhism]?
My meditation practice has resulted in a great deal of… let’s go with “maturation” over the last few years, at a speed that I would call inconsistent with the decades prior. As far as specific skills are concerned, I’d say the core of that is patience: patience with my mind, my tasks, and other people. The increased patience is most obvious to me as an improved set of social skills at work and with my family. Also, I’ve noticed I’m able to better abide my ADHD tendencies (diagnosed as a teen) resulting in more tasks getting finished, more tasks getting started in the first place, and better results from my work; again both at home and at my job.
My practice is mostly informed by Theravada, though I can’t say I’ve ever had any formal instruction with a teacher. It’s hard for me to take any significant time off from work and family (I’ve got a 5yo at home) to go on retreat an such, and I don’t know of anybody nearby, so my strategy is to read a lot, and make sure to get some cushion time in before bed and as much in-the-wild practice as I can remember to do while I go about my day. I listen to dharma talks, mostly from dharmaseed.org, and I’ve learned to focus my practice on whatever has the strongest ugh-field around it since that’s typically what I need the most work on in the moment.
I mostly use my understanding of algorithms and data structures to organize my day-to-day tasks where possible
I’d be curious to hear about how you do this at some point. Much of my own Graphic Design training has been about Information Design, and I’ve often used that to organize as well.
I have a concept of Algorithms, know roughly what they can be used for and roughly how they go about doing it, but because I’m not a programmer, I couldn’t distinguish one from another one if I saw them side by side. Data structures are also an interest, Databases and all that stuff. Info isn’t any good if you store it improperly and can’t retreive what you’re looking for when you’re looking for it!
PalmOs. I remember my first PDA, and it wasn’t my only PDA. I can honestly say I think I’ve single-handedly kept the tech sector in business with all the ‘latest tech’ I’ve bought over the years. Not only has the software changed since then, but so has the hardware. Whoosh! And now it’s all been crammed into a smartphone.
If I can learn to do the basics well, it helps me find the good experts too.
Agreed. Plus I’m pretty sure there isn’t a single domain where understanding of the advanced stuff isn’t helped by a strong grounding in the basics. Is that why you came to LW in the first place?
My meditation practice has resulted in a great deal of… let’s go with “maturation” over the last few years, at a speed that I would call inconsistent with the decades prior.
Not to give meditation short shrift, but I’ve no doubt becoming a father probably helped in that regard too. I can definitely say though, I noticed maturation in myself when I was meditating, and it did help me develop my interpersonal relationship skills.
Can’t say as I recall. It’s been a good while! But it’s part of the reason I’m still around after (checks comment history) probably more than a decade.
I’ve no doubt becoming a father probably helped in that regard too.
I certainly consider my kid one of my most important teachers! Though I doubt I would have had the presence and patience, or perhaps even notice the opportunity to learn many of the lessons I’ve assimilated by being a parent if I lacked the support of routine meditation.
I used to be a pretty competent programmer, but I graduated at a time when the field was pretty flooded and couldn’t find a job right away. My skills quickly became out of date (my year specialized in PalmOS, of all things) and I stopped looking for work in the field. These days I’m almost fully lapsed in this area. I mostly use my understanding of algorithms and data structures to organize my day-to-day tasks where possible, and I usually have a clue what the tech headlines are talking about. I have used my programming background to automate some of my work tasks, but I haven’t needed to work on those programs in a few years now beyond basic maintenance.
Specialization is an excellent strategy! I find it pairs well with my style of learning: either I know enough about a thing to speak fluently with the experts, or I know how to learn that much. As I said before, practical skills are important too, and one reason is that almost all tasks have so much more detail than a how-to can convey. If I can learn to do the basics well, it helps me find the good experts too.
My meditation practice has resulted in a great deal of… let’s go with “maturation” over the last few years, at a speed that I would call inconsistent with the decades prior. As far as specific skills are concerned, I’d say the core of that is patience: patience with my mind, my tasks, and other people. The increased patience is most obvious to me as an improved set of social skills at work and with my family. Also, I’ve noticed I’m able to better abide my ADHD tendencies (diagnosed as a teen) resulting in more tasks getting finished, more tasks getting started in the first place, and better results from my work; again both at home and at my job.
My practice is mostly informed by Theravada, though I can’t say I’ve ever had any formal instruction with a teacher. It’s hard for me to take any significant time off from work and family (I’ve got a 5yo at home) to go on retreat an such, and I don’t know of anybody nearby, so my strategy is to read a lot, and make sure to get some cushion time in before bed and as much in-the-wild practice as I can remember to do while I go about my day. I listen to dharma talks, mostly from dharmaseed.org, and I’ve learned to focus my practice on whatever has the strongest ugh-field around it since that’s typically what I need the most work on in the moment.
I’d be curious to hear about how you do this at some point. Much of my own Graphic Design training has been about Information Design, and I’ve often used that to organize as well.
I have a concept of Algorithms, know roughly what they can be used for and roughly how they go about doing it, but because I’m not a programmer, I couldn’t distinguish one from another one if I saw them side by side. Data structures are also an interest, Databases and all that stuff. Info isn’t any good if you store it improperly and can’t retreive what you’re looking for when you’re looking for it!
PalmOs. I remember my first PDA, and it wasn’t my only PDA. I can honestly say I think I’ve single-handedly kept the tech sector in business with all the ‘latest tech’ I’ve bought over the years. Not only has the software changed since then, but so has the hardware. Whoosh! And now it’s all been crammed into a smartphone.
Agreed. Plus I’m pretty sure there isn’t a single domain where understanding of the advanced stuff isn’t helped by a strong grounding in the basics. Is that why you came to LW in the first place?
Not to give meditation short shrift, but I’ve no doubt becoming a father probably helped in that regard too. I can definitely say though, I noticed maturation in myself when I was meditating, and it did help me develop my interpersonal relationship skills.
Can’t say as I recall. It’s been a good while! But it’s part of the reason I’m still around after (checks comment history) probably more than a decade.
I certainly consider my kid one of my most important teachers! Though I doubt I would have had the presence and patience, or perhaps even notice the opportunity to learn many of the lessons I’ve assimilated by being a parent if I lacked the support of routine meditation.