We’re basically talking about a logical illusion… an AI Ontological Argument… with all the flaws of an ontological argument (such as bearing no proof)… that was foolishly censored leading to a lot of bad press, hurt feelings, lost donations, and general existential risk increase.
From, as you call it, a purely correctness optimizing perspective, It’s long term bad having silly, irrational stuff like this associated with LW. I think that EY should apologize, and we should get an explicit moderation policy for LW, but in the mean time I’ll just undo any existential risk savings hoped to be gained from censorship.
In other words, this is less about Free Speech, as it is about Dumb Censors :p
It’s long term bad having silly, irrational stuff like this associated with LW.
Whether it’s irrational is one of the questions we are discussing in this thread, so it’s bad conduct to use your answer as an element of an argument. I of course agree that it appears silly and irrational and absurd, and that associating that with LW and SIAI is in itself a bad idea, but I don’t believe it’s actually irrational, and I don’t believe you’ve seriously considered that question.
We’re basically talking about a logical illusion… an AI Ontological Argument… with all the flaws of an ontological argument (such as bearing no proof)…
In other words, you don’t understand the argument, and are not moved by it, and so your estimation of improbability of the outrageous prediction stays the same. The only proper way to argue past this point is to discuss the subject matter, all else would be sophistry that equally applies to predictions of Astrology.
We’re basically talking about a logical illusion… an AI Ontological Argument… with all the flaws of an ontological argument (such as bearing no proof)… that was foolishly censored leading to a lot of bad press, hurt feelings, lost donations, and general existential risk increase.
From, as you call it, a purely correctness optimizing perspective, It’s long term bad having silly, irrational stuff like this associated with LW. I think that EY should apologize, and we should get an explicit moderation policy for LW, but in the mean time I’ll just undo any existential risk savings hoped to be gained from censorship.
In other words, this is less about Free Speech, as it is about Dumb Censors :p
Whether it’s irrational is one of the questions we are discussing in this thread, so it’s bad conduct to use your answer as an element of an argument. I of course agree that it appears silly and irrational and absurd, and that associating that with LW and SIAI is in itself a bad idea, but I don’t believe it’s actually irrational, and I don’t believe you’ve seriously considered that question.
In other words, you don’t understand the argument, and are not moved by it, and so your estimation of improbability of the outrageous prediction stays the same. The only proper way to argue past this point is to discuss the subject matter, all else would be sophistry that equally applies to predictions of Astrology.