Tom: I agree with your analogy.
Yudkowsy said: “Gray Area, what I’m arguing is that deduction, induction, and direct sensory experiences, should all be considered as equivalent-to-observation.”
This is only convincing to someone who believes logic is only possible when their is some physical structure directly corresponds to logical output. Yet even the evidence indicating this is true uses logic.
I recently started (and then backed out of)a debate with a Christian presupositionalist.I had no idea how to show how logic itself works except by example. Naturally, there is no lesson on how logic works in the bible. So then, how does logic itself work and depend on physical structure? He would not answer my questions reguarding method of rationalists. Since we could not agree what rationality itself is, I did eventually learn that he doesn’t believe in evolution or an old earth. He revealed this information only after realizing I no longer could take him seriously. This only occured after 25 emails between us! I wasted all that time to learn he didn’t believe the results of modern science. I’ll never make that mistake again. Anyone agree or disagree with the futility of debating someone who believes the universe is around 6,000 years old (and is also above age 25)?
Tom: I agree with your analogy. Yudkowsy said: “Gray Area, what I’m arguing is that deduction, induction, and direct sensory experiences, should all be considered as equivalent-to-observation.”
This is only convincing to someone who believes logic is only possible when their is some physical structure directly corresponds to logical output. Yet even the evidence indicating this is true uses logic.
I recently started (and then backed out of)a debate with a Christian presupositionalist.I had no idea how to show how logic itself works except by example. Naturally, there is no lesson on how logic works in the bible. So then, how does logic itself work and depend on physical structure? He would not answer my questions reguarding method of rationalists. Since we could not agree what rationality itself is, I did eventually learn that he doesn’t believe in evolution or an old earth. He revealed this information only after realizing I no longer could take him seriously. This only occured after 25 emails between us! I wasted all that time to learn he didn’t believe the results of modern science. I’ll never make that mistake again. Anyone agree or disagree with the futility of debating someone who believes the universe is around 6,000 years old (and is also above age 25)?