I’m going to have to think really hard on this one. On one hand, damn. That amount of money is really tempting. On the other hand, I kind of know you personally, and I have an automatic flinch reaction to playing anyone I know.
Can you clarify the stakes involved? When you say you’ll “accept your $150 fee”, do you mean this money goes to me personally, or to a charity such as MIRI?
Also, I’m not sure if “people just keep letting the AI out” is an accurate description. As far as I know, the only AIs who have ever won are Eliezer and myself, from the many many AI box experiments that have occurred so far—so the AI winning is definitely the exception rather than the norm. (If anyone can help prove this statement wrong, please do so!)
Sorry, it’s unlikely that I’ll ever release logs, unless someone offers truly absurd amounts of money. It would probably cost less to get me to play an additional game than publicly release logs.
$150 goes to you no matter the outcome, to pay for your time/preparation/etc...
I didn’t realize it was only you and Eliezer that have won as AI. I thought there were more, but I’ll trust you on this. In that case, I’m somewhat less outraged :) but still disturbed that there were even that many.
At one point I thought I recalled reading about a series of purported experiments by one person. Sadly, I couldn’t find it then and I don’t intend to try tonight. According to my extremely fallible memory:
The Gatekeeper players likely all came from outside the LW community, assuming the AI/blogger didn’t make it all up.
The fundamentalist Christian woman refused to let the AI out or even discuss the matter past a certain point, saying that Artificial Intelligence (ETA: as a field of endeavor) was immoral. Everyone else let the AI out.
The blogger tried to play various different types of AIs, including totally honest ones and possibly some that s/he considered dumber-than-human. The UnFriendly ones got out more quickly on average.
Sup Alexei.
I’m going to have to think really hard on this one. On one hand, damn. That amount of money is really tempting. On the other hand, I kind of know you personally, and I have an automatic flinch reaction to playing anyone I know.
Can you clarify the stakes involved? When you say you’ll “accept your $150 fee”, do you mean this money goes to me personally, or to a charity such as MIRI?
Also, I’m not sure if “people just keep letting the AI out” is an accurate description. As far as I know, the only AIs who have ever won are Eliezer and myself, from the many many AI box experiments that have occurred so far—so the AI winning is definitely the exception rather than the norm. (If anyone can help prove this statement wrong, please do so!)
Edit: The only other AI victory.
Updates: http://lesswrong.com/r/discussion/lw/iqk/i_played_the_ai_box_experiment_again_and_lost/
If you win, and publish the full dialogue, I’m throwing in another $100.
I’d do more, but I’m poor.
Sorry, it’s unlikely that I’ll ever release logs, unless someone offers truly absurd amounts of money. It would probably cost less to get me to play an additional game than publicly release logs.
My theory is that you are embarrassed about how weak the AI argument really is, in retrospect.
And furthermore, this applies to other games where participants refused to publish logs.
$150 goes to you no matter the outcome, to pay for your time/preparation/etc...
I didn’t realize it was only you and Eliezer that have won as AI. I thought there were more, but I’ll trust you on this. In that case, I’m somewhat less outraged :) but still disturbed that there were even that many.
At one point I thought I recalled reading about a series of purported experiments by one person. Sadly, I couldn’t find it then and I don’t intend to try tonight. According to my extremely fallible memory:
The Gatekeeper players likely all came from outside the LW community, assuming the AI/blogger didn’t make it all up.
The fundamentalist Christian woman refused to let the AI out or even discuss the matter past a certain point, saying that Artificial Intelligence (ETA: as a field of endeavor) was immoral. Everyone else let the AI out.
The blogger tried to play various different types of AIs, including totally honest ones and possibly some that s/he considered dumber-than-human. The UnFriendly ones got out more quickly on average.
I think this is the post you remember reading: http://www.sl4.org/archive/0207/4935.html
Retracted!