Well-Kept Gardens Die By Pacifism. The inferential gap problem is real. Newcomers often really don’t know enough, but we can’t afford to re-hash the basics every time someone new shows up, or we’d never get to the interesting stuff, so when they’re not up to our standards, we really do have to boo them off the stage. Sorry that had to happen to you. Fortunately, we have introductory material. Both of those linked posts are from The Sequences, and there’s a lot more where that came from. It’s pretty long, but you should get a lot out of it long before you finish.
Karma is an imperfect measure, but it’s a lot better than nothing. Everyone who says anything interesting at all will get downvoted sometimes, so expect that. Because most of us use pseudonyms, we can’t know if you’re a real newcomer, a banned user with a new name, a sock puppet of a potential abuser, or just a potential “prolific fool”, so we have to hold everyone to our standards. You seem unusually sincere, so I’ve taken more time to reply than I’d usually bother with, but I can’t rule out the possibility that you’re trolling me, so I think I’ll stop here. Start reading The Sequences. It ought to help prevent the downvotes.
Given that new users don’t produce a significant number of bad posts/comments, I think ~zero karma targeting is currently better for bad posts/comments from new users (unless the post/comment is absolutely horrible or hopeless), it improves the chances that they lurk and learn. But it should go into the negatives when there are more posts/comments by a given user (even more good posts/comments, otherwise the norm is too complicated to channel).
This could get UI support in the form of a new-user badge near the voting buttons with alt-text explaining the welcoming-voting norm.
From your viewpoint, your actions do make sense to me. Since I am sincere, I am still offended, but I am very thankful you took the time to explain what the baseline is.
Now I will have to gather some strength to go on a learning journey, so the long comment will be my last for a while. Then I will have a baseline to compare with.
Again, thanks a lot for taking the time, I appreciate it, and I guess I am sorry I didn’t think about the possibility that even though I view myself as intelligent, that isn’t everything.
Well-Kept Gardens Die By Pacifism. The inferential gap problem is real. Newcomers often really don’t know enough, but we can’t afford to re-hash the basics every time someone new shows up, or we’d never get to the interesting stuff, so when they’re not up to our standards, we really do have to boo them off the stage. Sorry that had to happen to you. Fortunately, we have introductory material. Both of those linked posts are from The Sequences, and there’s a lot more where that came from. It’s pretty long, but you should get a lot out of it long before you finish.
Karma is an imperfect measure, but it’s a lot better than nothing. Everyone who says anything interesting at all will get downvoted sometimes, so expect that. Because most of us use pseudonyms, we can’t know if you’re a real newcomer, a banned user with a new name, a sock puppet of a potential abuser, or just a potential “prolific fool”, so we have to hold everyone to our standards. You seem unusually sincere, so I’ve taken more time to reply than I’d usually bother with, but I can’t rule out the possibility that you’re trolling me, so I think I’ll stop here. Start reading The Sequences. It ought to help prevent the downvotes.
Given that new users don’t produce a significant number of bad posts/comments, I think ~zero karma targeting is currently better for bad posts/comments from new users (unless the post/comment is absolutely horrible or hopeless), it improves the chances that they lurk and learn. But it should go into the negatives when there are more posts/comments by a given user (even more good posts/comments, otherwise the norm is too complicated to channel).
This could get UI support in the form of a new-user badge near the voting buttons with alt-text explaining the welcoming-voting norm.
Yeah, I will have a look at it.
From your viewpoint, your actions do make sense to me. Since I am sincere, I am still offended, but I am very thankful you took the time to explain what the baseline is.
Now I will have to gather some strength to go on a learning journey, so the long comment will be my last for a while. Then I will have a baseline to compare with.
Again, thanks a lot for taking the time, I appreciate it, and I guess I am sorry I didn’t think about the possibility that even though I view myself as intelligent, that isn’t everything.