What is the correct amount of self praise? Do you have reasons to believe Isusr has made an incorrect evaluation regarding their aptitude? Do you believe that even if the evaluation is correct that the post is still harmful?
I find it quite reasonable that the LessWrong community could benefit from more praise, self or otherwise. I don’t have strong signals as to the aptitude of Isusr other than having read some fraction of their posts.
I worry your response comes as an automatic social defense mechanism as opposed to reflecting “real” beliefs and would like to understand what many upvoters find the issue to be.
I don’t think that Isusr has made an incorrect evaluation necessarily as I don’t personally know them and have no evidence to prove that it is incorrect.
I take issue with the fact that the piece to me seems to me to be an anecdotal explanation of the Dunning–Kruger effect written to place specific focus on the alleged aptitude and general intelligence of the author.
To offer a deeper explanation, I personally view the piece as doing the following things:
Explain some aspects of intelligence that people don’t normally like to hear about (really just some basic expounding of the themes in Competent Elites)
Make an interesting observation about how individuals can evaluate intelligence of others (specifically, evaluate them when they are younger than yourself)
If you find yourself starved for intellectual partners, advice on how to find them.
I don’t see any mention of confidence in the article, so I’m having trouble seeing how the Dunning-Kruger effect is related.
More importantly for me, I would like to take for granted what you believe the piece to be about so that we can focus on a specific question. So, Isusr is focusing on their own intelligence in this post, why do you find that problematic?
What is the correct amount of self praise? Do you have reasons to believe Isusr has made an incorrect evaluation regarding their aptitude? Do you believe that even if the evaluation is correct that the post is still harmful?
I don’t know if the post is harmful, but in general, “too much self-praise” can be a failure mode that makes argumentative writing less likely to succeed at convincing readers of its arguments.
Too much self praise.
What is the correct amount of self praise? Do you have reasons to believe Isusr has made an incorrect evaluation regarding their aptitude? Do you believe that even if the evaluation is correct that the post is still harmful?
I find it quite reasonable that the LessWrong community could benefit from more praise, self or otherwise. I don’t have strong signals as to the aptitude of Isusr other than having read some fraction of their posts.
I worry your response comes as an automatic social defense mechanism as opposed to reflecting “real” beliefs and would like to understand what many upvoters find the issue to be.
I don’t think that Isusr has made an incorrect evaluation necessarily as I don’t personally know them and have no evidence to prove that it is incorrect.
I take issue with the fact that the piece to me seems to me to be an anecdotal explanation of the Dunning–Kruger effect written to place specific focus on the alleged aptitude and general intelligence of the author.
To offer a deeper explanation, I personally view the piece as doing the following things:
Explain some aspects of intelligence that people don’t normally like to hear about (really just some basic expounding of the themes in Competent Elites)
Make an interesting observation about how individuals can evaluate intelligence of others (specifically, evaluate them when they are younger than yourself)
If you find yourself starved for intellectual partners, advice on how to find them.
I don’t see any mention of confidence in the article, so I’m having trouble seeing how the Dunning-Kruger effect is related.
More importantly for me, I would like to take for granted what you believe the piece to be about so that we can focus on a specific question. So, Isusr is focusing on their own intelligence in this post, why do you find that problematic?
Exactly.
Rationalism is an eternal struggle between Dempster-Shafer and Dunning-Kruger.
I don’t know if the post is harmful, but in general, “too much self-praise” can be a failure mode that makes argumentative writing less likely to succeed at convincing readers of its arguments.