At one extreme all data could be sent all the time to all functionalities but each functionality only really digests a small portion of it.
Is this the context-blind extreme? and
Or in reverse a brain that gets easily confused by garbage data might limit by only transitting information really required for the operations
is the other extreme?
Rephrasing: All people need to filter data, but from which data? Context-blind filters global variables while context-sensitive filters from local variables.
Also, what about games/activities with explicit rules such as chess or programming languages? Wouldn’t everyone be able to identify those contexts and apply the right rules? (Assume they know the rules)
Well one of the other symptoms sensory-overload could be interpreted as not doing the filtering (I myself don’t exhibit that so much but it is connected). In that way it is not strictly neccesary. It’s also a multistage process so you might have a global-local-global-local alteration on different parts of the hierachy.
It isn’t that absolute and while everyone probably can manage to follow the rules there might be a difference how effortful it is. The theory might not be detailed enough to address questions on that level and i don’t have the most up to date familiarity with it (having wrong theory can do a lot of harm and it has fluxed quite a bit). While it is not context-blindness the related trait of literalmindedness would help with explicit rules as you don’t have to “apply common sense” but just “execute”. In a situation where there are literal rules to be followed and context-sensitive course of action context-blindness would drop the context sensitive option from being relevant. [What I think was such a conflict] (https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/G5TwJ9BGxcgh5DsmQ/yes-requires-the-possibility-of-no#oyoNqpuaanWcXC4uG) a context heavy person might not even realise that a literal interpretation was possible.
In a way justice is supposed to be blind in a very near sense. If law is being applied to persons differently it easily and quickly becomes unfair. But if there is no special adhereing to such principles the application tends to get uneven.
Thanks, I’ve honestly learned so much throughout our comment thread.
One thing I’m confused about it why/how local contexts recognized by neurotypicals.
Maybe “mimic high-status members of in-group” explains most of it(?), or “what’s other people doing?” or “what would someone else in my current role do?”
I think that’s confused because if I know what “role” I’m in, then I already have a context in mind, and I’m trying to figure out how that context is derived in the first place!
Maybe contexts feel more solid/real to neurotypicals. “School” feels like a real/solid thing (even though it’s just a building where kids …). “Money” feels like it’s real/solid (even though it’s just paper or a number in a database with a socially agreed upon value attached). Being a “Good Student” feels real/tangible (even though it’s just writing notes directly from the board and …)
Those 3 examples are definitely things I felt were real/solid/tangible and I didn’t connect the “even though it’s …” definitions until highschool/ undergrad.
It does not need to feel like context on the inside and arguably if you are recognising you are in a context you are thinking about the situation in a certain situation-independent way.
I don’t know if the analog hold but a typical reinforcement neural network upon error just backpropagates a weigth adjustment. One could think that weights that are moved a lot are interpret to be “very in context” and weights that are moved a lilttle are “somewhat out of context” which would lead a very fuzzy sense of context where there are no hard lines (well before they are reinforced into place). While it might not be realistic it would be computationally tractable to compare two neural networks which are more sharp or diffuse in the propagation weighting which could lead to a different structure in the high-fit state (or different times for reaching that high fit state).
There are a lot of prejudices so there tends to be hiding of these things if they are not strictly neccesary. It feels good to be seen and have that curiosity and openness be a positive interaction.
Is this the context-blind extreme? and
is the other extreme?
Rephrasing: All people need to filter data, but from which data? Context-blind filters global variables while context-sensitive filters from local variables.
Also, what about games/activities with explicit rules such as chess or programming languages? Wouldn’t everyone be able to identify those contexts and apply the right rules? (Assume they know the rules)
Well one of the other symptoms sensory-overload could be interpreted as not doing the filtering (I myself don’t exhibit that so much but it is connected). In that way it is not strictly neccesary. It’s also a multistage process so you might have a global-local-global-local alteration on different parts of the hierachy.
It isn’t that absolute and while everyone probably can manage to follow the rules there might be a difference how effortful it is. The theory might not be detailed enough to address questions on that level and i don’t have the most up to date familiarity with it (having wrong theory can do a lot of harm and it has fluxed quite a bit). While it is not context-blindness the related trait of literalmindedness would help with explicit rules as you don’t have to “apply common sense” but just “execute”. In a situation where there are literal rules to be followed and context-sensitive course of action context-blindness would drop the context sensitive option from being relevant. [What I think was such a conflict] (https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/G5TwJ9BGxcgh5DsmQ/yes-requires-the-possibility-of-no#oyoNqpuaanWcXC4uG) a context heavy person might not even realise that a literal interpretation was possible.
In a way justice is supposed to be blind in a very near sense. If law is being applied to persons differently it easily and quickly becomes unfair. But if there is no special adhereing to such principles the application tends to get uneven.
Thanks, I’ve honestly learned so much throughout our comment thread.
One thing I’m confused about it why/how local contexts recognized by neurotypicals.
Maybe “mimic high-status members of in-group” explains most of it(?), or “what’s other people doing?” or “what would someone else in my current role do?”
I think that’s confused because if I know what “role” I’m in, then I already have a context in mind, and I’m trying to figure out how that context is derived in the first place!
Maybe contexts feel more solid/real to neurotypicals. “School” feels like a real/solid thing (even though it’s just a building where kids …). “Money” feels like it’s real/solid (even though it’s just paper or a number in a database with a socially agreed upon value attached). Being a “Good Student” feels real/tangible (even though it’s just writing notes directly from the board and …)
Those 3 examples are definitely things I felt were real/solid/tangible and I didn’t connect the “even though it’s …” definitions until highschool/ undergrad.
It does not need to feel like context on the inside and arguably if you are recognising you are in a context you are thinking about the situation in a certain situation-independent way.
I don’t know if the analog hold but a typical reinforcement neural network upon error just backpropagates a weigth adjustment. One could think that weights that are moved a lot are interpret to be “very in context” and weights that are moved a lilttle are “somewhat out of context” which would lead a very fuzzy sense of context where there are no hard lines (well before they are reinforced into place). While it might not be realistic it would be computationally tractable to compare two neural networks which are more sharp or diffuse in the propagation weighting which could lead to a different structure in the high-fit state (or different times for reaching that high fit state).
There are a lot of prejudices so there tends to be hiding of these things if they are not strictly neccesary. It feels good to be seen and have that curiosity and openness be a positive interaction.