I’m very interested in this, and for some time have been working to improve social skills without a strong desire for sex. I almost wish I had more desire, because it seems to be a great motivator, and also provides tangible results, or tangible lack thereof.
IMO, Real Social Dynamics has some very good material for this kind of thing, especially their most recent video program, The Blueprint Decoded. Every time I’ve gone through even a fraction of my notes, I experience significant and immediate gains to confidence and social skill. (I still have a ways to go to fully incorporate all the material.) It’s basically very general information and unifying theory to the majority of social interactions, distilled from their prior experience in the area. It’s great for pick up as well, but the main ideas are very general. It’s still sold as pick up material rather than general self-improvement because only as pickup material can they ask $600 for it. To say a little more about it, I can’t recall any notably deceptive tactics, it’s mostly about how to be confident, fun, and socially dominant (without needing to put anybody down). This isn’t so much the appearance of what people are looking for as the substance of it. Also, Alicorn and AnnaSalamon have seen a little of it and thought it was good material for both genders. I suggest watching disc 5 first for the best idea of the type of material it is.
That’s absurdly expensive for a product with no guarantee of value. Admittedly I’d pay more than that for a college course… but in a college course I know that the content is already validated and socially approved of. Whereas if I tell people that I’ve ordered these $600 social-skills videos, looks askance are inevitable.
It’s probably a good idea to avoid telling people what you paid for it, or even that you bought it, if that’s going to cause them to underestimate your common sense or general intelligence.
Yeah, it’s very pricey, and they definitely could sell it for less. But supply and demand, they can sell it for that much.
Unfortunately there is less guarantee, at least of being socially approved of. But you could take a college course for that much about something you’re mildly interested in and probably won’t remember, or you could gain a big improvement in your understanding of attraction and how people interact, which is something you can use constantly.
First you have to demonstrate that it actually works. Most “pickup” material is obviously scams. Most of the rest is horrifically immoral; it’s like a training program for date rapists and psychopaths. Some subset of what’s left might actually be valuable; but then we need a way of finding out which is which.
College courses have a significant advantage here: There is an accreditation process by which we can distinguish top-tier schools from second-tier schools from mediocre school from poor schools from scams.
I don’t have to do anything :) This isn’t a debate where I take the “pro-PUA” position and then I need to win impressiveness points, this is me suggesting a resource to other people that I’ve found very helpful. I hope it’s helpful to other people as well, but if it doesn’t seem helpful then by all means pass it by.
You’ve got my honest recommendation that it’s useful, but unfortunately I can’t give much more than that on its effectiveness. As for immoral, Alicorn and Anna Salamon saw an hour of it and thought it seemed positive and healthy. (They only saw one disc, possibly the 3rd or 4th, so if there’s anything offensive in other disks then that should be held against me, not against them.)
I’m very interested in this, and for some time have been working to improve social skills without a strong desire for sex. I almost wish I had more desire, because it seems to be a great motivator, and also provides tangible results, or tangible lack thereof.
IMO, Real Social Dynamics has some very good material for this kind of thing, especially their most recent video program, The Blueprint Decoded. Every time I’ve gone through even a fraction of my notes, I experience significant and immediate gains to confidence and social skill. (I still have a ways to go to fully incorporate all the material.) It’s basically very general information and unifying theory to the majority of social interactions, distilled from their prior experience in the area. It’s great for pick up as well, but the main ideas are very general. It’s still sold as pick up material rather than general self-improvement because only as pickup material can they ask $600 for it. To say a little more about it, I can’t recall any notably deceptive tactics, it’s mostly about how to be confident, fun, and socially dominant (without needing to put anybody down). This isn’t so much the appearance of what people are looking for as the substance of it. Also, Alicorn and AnnaSalamon have seen a little of it and thought it was good material for both genders. I suggest watching disc 5 first for the best idea of the type of material it is.
That’s absurdly expensive for a product with no guarantee of value. Admittedly I’d pay more than that for a college course… but in a college course I know that the content is already validated and socially approved of. Whereas if I tell people that I’ve ordered these $600 social-skills videos, looks askance are inevitable.
It’s probably a good idea to avoid telling people what you paid for it, or even that you bought it, if that’s going to cause them to underestimate your common sense or general intelligence.
Yeah, it’s very pricey, and they definitely could sell it for less. But supply and demand, they can sell it for that much.
Unfortunately there is less guarantee, at least of being socially approved of. But you could take a college course for that much about something you’re mildly interested in and probably won’t remember, or you could gain a big improvement in your understanding of attraction and how people interact, which is something you can use constantly.
First you have to demonstrate that it actually works. Most “pickup” material is obviously scams. Most of the rest is horrifically immoral; it’s like a training program for date rapists and psychopaths. Some subset of what’s left might actually be valuable; but then we need a way of finding out which is which.
College courses have a significant advantage here: There is an accreditation process by which we can distinguish top-tier schools from second-tier schools from mediocre school from poor schools from scams.
I don’t have to do anything :) This isn’t a debate where I take the “pro-PUA” position and then I need to win impressiveness points, this is me suggesting a resource to other people that I’ve found very helpful. I hope it’s helpful to other people as well, but if it doesn’t seem helpful then by all means pass it by.
You’ve got my honest recommendation that it’s useful, but unfortunately I can’t give much more than that on its effectiveness. As for immoral, Alicorn and Anna Salamon saw an hour of it and thought it seemed positive and healthy. (They only saw one disc, possibly the 3rd or 4th, so if there’s anything offensive in other disks then that should be held against me, not against them.)