I wonder if it helps with gathering energy to fight the views of others if you label their views as being “deathist”.
Do you really? The choice of the label was certainly not optimized for this purpose, it was a pattern I saw in the two citations and used to communicate the idea of this post (it happens to have an existing label). Fighting the views of others is a wrong attitude, you communicate (if you expect your arguments to be accepted) and let people decide, not extinguish what others believe.
The first quote says human values have changed and that the core of our values is robust to radical, catastrophic change.
The second quote says that human values have changed and that some future changes would be okay, and it states that there are greater risks to human values in accepting a global entity responsible for protecting against value changes due to AGI.
Glossing those two quotes as being analogous to, and as equally irrational as, standard deathism seems like a deliberate misreading, and using the name ‘value deathism’ seems pretty suspect to me, for whatever that’s worth.
Hmm. I wonder if it helps with gathering energy to fight the views of others if you label their views as being “deathist”.
Do you really? The choice of the label was certainly not optimized for this purpose, it was a pattern I saw in the two citations and used to communicate the idea of this post (it happens to have an existing label). Fighting the views of others is a wrong attitude, you communicate (if you expect your arguments to be accepted) and let people decide, not extinguish what others believe.
The first quote says human values have changed and that the core of our values is robust to radical, catastrophic change.
The second quote says that human values have changed and that some future changes would be okay, and it states that there are greater risks to human values in accepting a global entity responsible for protecting against value changes due to AGI.
Glossing those two quotes as being analogous to, and as equally irrational as, standard deathism seems like a deliberate misreading, and using the name ‘value deathism’ seems pretty suspect to me, for whatever that’s worth.